BMW S1000rr

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

better than all the current jap crap

You've ridden them back to back?

[Rider]

Looks a 1000 times better in race plastics.

[Sixxxxer]

Originally Posted by Rider

Looks a 1000 times better in race plastics.

most bikes do??

looks like a ZX10...

[Mikey]

Originally Posted by Tmall

You've ridden them back to back?

He hasn't even ridden all the current "Jap crap". He's got a 929.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Tmall

You've ridden them back to back?

Nope but "better" could mean anything, such as I like the looks of it better than any of the current jap crap

2008 marked the beginning of ugliness for all the Japs, IMO.

And as for the new Aprilia? Hot-looking bike, but what's the retail going to be, like $20K? lmao........And I can guarantee the first couple model years will have lots of defects and flaws, the way the current RSV's did. Can you say clutch cylinder that leaks and needs bleeding every 500 miles? Odometer that resets due to the dash crapping out? Swingarm that develops cracks and prompted a recall? Electrical connector that burns up? "Immobilizer" anti-theft system that decides for itself when to let you start the bike? Spot weld on the cheap pot-metal oil tank that develops a leak? Rear shock that noticeably faded after a long ride due to its proximity to the exhaust? All of this happened on my 04. Italian reliability FTL. I'd rather take my chances on the BMW. Frankly I'm surprised they aren't charging more, they could easily get it.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

"Better" could mean anything, like better styling, better comfort.........And I like the looks of it better than any of the current jap crap, so yeah.

2008 marked the beginning of ugliness for all the Japs, IMO.

And as for the new Aprilia? Hot-looking bike, but what's the retail going to be, like $20K? lmao........And I can guarantee the first couple model years will have lots of defects and flaws, the way the current RSV's did. Can you say clutch cylinder that leaks and needs bleeding every 500 miles? Odometer that resets due to the dash crapping out? Swingarm that develops cracks and prompted a recall? Electrical connector that burns up? "Immobilizer" anti-theft system that decides for itself when to let you start the bike? Spot weld on the cheap pot-metal oil tank that develops a leak? Rear shock that noticeably faded after a long ride due to its proximity to the exhaust? All of this happened on my 04. Italian reliability FTL. I'd rather take my chances on the BMW. Frankly I'm surprised they aren't charging more, they could easily get it.

the factory is going for 20k the regular version should be within reach of the bmw

[Homeslice]

I thought the base was going to start at 18-20K, with the "Factory" somewhere in the low-mid twenties. At least that was what the rags were speculating a few months ago. The thinking was that just because it has a V4 everyone would be willing to pay a premium over an inline bike.

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Nope but "better" could mean anything, such as I like the looks of it better than any of the current jap crap

2008 marked the beginning of ugliness for all the Japs, IMO.

And as for the new Aprilia? Hot-looking bike, but what's the retail going to be, like $20K? lmao........And I can guarantee the first couple model years will have lots of defects and flaws, the way the current RSV's did. Can you say clutch cylinder that leaks and needs bleeding every 500 miles? Odometer that resets due to the dash crapping out? Swingarm that develops cracks and prompted a recall? Electrical connector that burns up? "Immobilizer" anti-theft system that decides for itself when to let you start the bike? Spot weld on the cheap pot-metal oil tank that develops a leak? Rear shock that noticeably faded after a long ride due to its proximity to the exhaust? All of this happened on my 04. Italian reliability FTL. I'd rather take my chances on the BMW. Frankly I'm surprised they aren't charging more, they could easily get it.

Shoot, do your homework before buying then. At least 3/4 of those problems have been happening on the RSVs and Falcos since 2000 or earlier.