Yet another DMG rant...

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by was92v

When I raced WERA you had to re-tech the bike if the handle bar hits the ground. It is a safety thing to make sure you are not leaking something that will crash someone else, or decide to continue on an unsafe machine. It is a way for for a new set of eyes to look things over.

Oh I understand the principle, but you must admit that they've seemed to survive all these years without such a rule in place. I think that once you start racing at that level, you can be expected to make better decisions than someone club racing in WERA. No offense. Quite frankly, they may as well institute a "quit" or "non continuance" rule.

[Mrs. Colleen]

Yeah...I get the idea too. Just wondering if it was actually a problem before.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh I understand the principle, but you must admit that they've seemed to survive all these years without such a rule in place. I think that once you start racing at that level, you can be expected to make better decisions than someone club racing in WERA. No offense. Quite frankly, they may as well institute a "quit" or "non continuance" rule.

I'm not sure if we have that rule in CCS but if so, it isn't enforced.

In a wet race least year a guy went down on the warm up lap. He picked up the bike, gridded and went on to a podium finish.

A buddy of mine went down at Daytona and still managed a top 15.

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Originally Posted by shmike

I'm not sure if we have that rule in CCS but if so, it isn't enforced.

In a wet race least year a guy went down on the warm up lap. He picked up the bike, gridded and went on to a podium finish.

A buddy of mine went down at Daytona and still managed a top 15.

Even after the ride through and tech inspection? Wow!

[was92v]

Originally Posted by shmike

I'm not sure if we have that rule in CCS but if so, it isn't enforced.

In a wet race least year a guy went down on the warm up lap. He picked up the bike, gridded and went on to a podium finish.

A buddy of mine went down at Daytona and still managed a top 15.

Daytona is a long race. Crash in a sprint race and you may as well pack it in.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by was92v

Daytona is a long race. Crash in a sprint race and you may as well pack it in.

Hmmm that's a good point. It would suck for the crasher but maybe they should have an automatic quit rule when you crash...

[shmike]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Even after the ride through and tech inspection? Wow!

No, I was saying we don't have that rule in our series.

Originally Posted by was92v

Daytona is a long race. Crash in a sprint race and you may as well pack it in.

This was in a CCS sprint race AT Daytona, not an AMA event.

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Originally Posted by shmike

No, I was saying we don't have that rule in our series.



This was in a CCS sprint race AT Daytona, not an AMA event.

Oh I see, well that is WAY more probable!!! I was like fucking WOW crash and ride through and still finish well! Honestly, I don't know why they even go back out.

[was92v]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh I see, well that is WAY more probable!!! I was like fucking WOW crash and ride through and still finish well! Honestly, I don't know why they even go back out.

The WERA thing was (now, idk?) If the bike can be ridden back to pit lane without riding the race line, they would give it a quick look over on pit road and send you back out if it was OK. If it was late in the race you are not likely to win, but a points position is better than a DNF. Some points is better than no points. Winning is just more points, almost
For some reason a lot of people tend to push harder after a crash anyway. For me it was that I'm pissed off at myself for crashing or whatever it was that caused a delay in getting to the front or keeping the lead and I would try that much harder to make up for my mistake.
A lot of crashing is possible without ever hitting the ground..

As far as Daytona and NASCAR uh, I mean AMA Pro racing, there are about 15 pro racers in the field. The other 65 are club racers who paid the fee, bought the license and lined up on the grid. The ONLY Pro road racing in the US is when the MotoGP lands in the country and they will be lucky to grid 20 bikes.

Many "Club" racers choose to not race with the AMA (I was one of them) not because they can't compete with the riders in that series, but because the AMA treats their riders like shit and the organization is a cluster fuck.

As bad as AMA racing was (NOT THE RIDERS, the AMA)...
Rolling starts, full course yellows and pace cars is car racing using motorcycles. The DMG/AMA Daytona race this year was embarrassing to even watch. If all they want is a US/North American series with totally different race procedures then the rest of the world, they got it.
My concern is that it will be one more nail in the coffin of US riders who want and need to progress to the World stage. US riders already have a slim chance of ever being able to move up to WSB or MGP and I'm afraid this may throw another road block in the way by making the "Racing" look bad and reflect on the riders who have no say in the procedures that produce a screwed up show.

[Amber Lamps]

Oh okay, sorry if there was a misunderstanding. I understand what you mean about crashing and trying harder!