Trail braking?

[Trip]

Very nice dude, great read.

[HokieDNA01]

Hey Awesome. I recognize that pic of your bike. Do you live never the Gap? If so what is your name? Are you the imfamous Tyler? Just Curious.

[Yamerhaw]

I think a lot of people confuse the terms "trail braking" and "backing it in"

The awesomes last post with the pic of him was Spot On about trail braking

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

I understand your pain though, are you more concerned with front end grip? Are you having problems with too much initial bite spooking you? Do your brakes tend to fade? It takes a lot of the "OH SHIT" away when the rear tire comes up a little during hard breaking for a turn. Just a thought. You may just need brake lines or pads to totally turn things around and give you confidence. Which is of course exactly what you need to be a great braker!

I just need to trust that my brakes will get me slowed down enough for the corner I want to take. It's not so much that I don't trust the bike or the brakes, it's myself that I question. I know my bike is quite capable but it's a wrong input from me that could result in an output of me.
I worked on this last year and am continuing to work on it this year. It's mainly on the back straight at Mid-Ohio that I struggle. This is partly why I can't break that 140 mark because I'm thinking about having to slow for the corners.... and before you say it, I don't think I'm that slow through them. A lot of times I catch people there but they pull me in the straights.

Brake pads I changed last year. I just put OEMs on because they are fine for me. Erik even rode the bike at the track a couple years ago and said the brakes were acceptable for me there, especially after they get warmed up. I trust his judgment.

Originally Posted by Trip

Rear brake is jello, it has no stopping power.

That is exactly how I feel! I hardly use it because I don't feel like it does anything, but I do on the street every once in a while just to train my brain.

Originally Posted by TIGGER

That was an AWESOME POST!!!! Seriously!

Great post THE AWESOME! And I agree, that bike looks familiar.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by racedoll

I just need to trust that my brakes will get me slowed down enough for the corner I want to take. It's not so much that I don't trust the bike or the brakes, it's myself that I question. I know my bike is quite capable but it's a wrong input from me that could result in an output of me.
I worked on this last year and am continuing to work on it this year. It's mainly on the back straight at Mid-Ohio that I struggle. This is partly why I can't break that 140 mark because I'm thinking about having to slow for the corners.... and before you say it, I don't think I'm that slow through them. A lot of times I catch people there but they pull me in the straights.

Brake pads I changed last year. I just put OEMs on because they are fine for me. Erik even rode the bike at the track a couple years ago and said the brakes were acceptable for me there, especially after they get warmed up. I trust his judgment.



That is exactly how I feel! I hardly use it because I don't feel like it does anything, but I do on the street every once in a while just to train my brain.



Great post THE AWESOME! And I agree, that bike looks familiar.

Well I'm no "The Awesome" but imho you are on the right track and the only thing that is going to "fix" your problem is practice. Good luck and be careful, Rome wasn't built in a day!!!

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Well I'm no "The Awesome" but imho you are on the right track and the only thing that is going to "fix" your problem is practice. Good luck and be careful, Rome wasn't built in a day!!!

I know what I'm supposed to be doing and know kind of how to do things, it's just a matter of actually DOING IT.

Yup, been practicing for too damn long though. I need to just start doing some stuff, but I can't get too impatient. I feel like I improved last year so that is all I can hope for again this year.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by racedoll

That is exactly how I feel! I hardly use it because I don't feel like it does anything, but I do on the street every once in a while just to train my brain.

I used it at the rally pulling into gravel. Apparently I locked up the rear when I stopped. I didn't realize it til Shane said dude, you totally locked it up and then mjmff2?? came sliding past on the ground.

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by Trip

I used it at the rally pulling into gravel. Apparently I locked up the rear when I stopped. I didn't realize it til Shane said dude, you totally locked it up and then mjmff2?? came sliding past on the ground.

I know it does something, but it just doesn't feel like it.

[tached1000rr]

Originally Posted by Trip

I used it at the rally pulling into gravel. Apparently I locked up the rear when I stopped. I didn't realize it til Shane said dude, you totally locked it up and then mjmff2?? came sliding past on the ground.

I only use my rear for stopping on gravel at low speeds, and low speed parking lot turns.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Trip

I used it at the rally pulling into gravel. Apparently I locked up the rear when I stopped. I didn't realize it til Shane said dude, you totally locked it up and then mjmff2?? came sliding past on the ground.

Ha me too!I pulled in looking at him and the front slipped so I used the rear without thinking about it. It's easier for me because back when I was taught to ride, you were taught to use both brakes and sport bikes didn't exist yet. Hell, back then I knew guys that never used the front brakes and preached against them. Some chops and modded bikes didn't even have front brakes!