2010 Hayden edition duc 848

[Speedracer42]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

How do you know what he's done or anyone else for that matter? Just because you choose to throw your money away pretending to be Rossi doesn't mean that your opinion is the only one that counts! Let's see all of your championships and MotoGp trophies before you start mouthing off that we don't deserve an opinion and you do. Maybe you aught to get Nicky's balls out of your mouth long enough to take a real look at his career. Every championship Hayden has ever "won" has been behind someone truly great having a terrible season. Do you honestly believe that your boy is a better rider than Rossi? Or Mat Mlladin? Come on! Both times he had unarguably the most dominant bikes and it still required 4-6 dnfs by Rossi/Mlladin for him to win a championship.

Let's not get carried away. Im no Nicky fanboy. I would defend someone like Vermulen in the same manner. He has a WSBK championship and kicked ass over there. Yet hasn't done jack in GP. It doesn't mean he is washed up or talentless or anything. And I also said never said none of you could have an opinion. Only that I did not agree with it. And won't. There is another thread similar to this is regards to Stoner on another forum. People complaining about his lack of interest in fans and dead pan personality. Here is what a WMRC and OMRRA multi time #1 plate holder had to say about it.....

Originally Posted by Schmidtastic

You know...... I think some people are loosing perspective. These guys: Stoner, Haga, Yates, Mladin, they didn't get into motorbikes cause of the fame. They're motorbike racers. True, they're at the highest level and have a ton of fans. Some guys (ie Rossi) are better with the fans than others, but respect them for what they're trying to really do: wring one more tenth per lap out of those bikes at speeds we can't imagine.

Maybe Stoner's sick. Maybe he isn't. Whatever it is, I hope he gets over it. I'm not going to dislike him cause he doesn't smile and wave like he's some kind of puppet.

It's what these guys do on the track that I'll judge them by. If they're a dick on the track I won't like them. That's what matters to these guys, and should be what matters to us.

Here's one for you to think about:

Spies is from America, he's kicking ass in WSB, and we all love him for it. Ever notice how he shows no emotion and never smiles in the post-race conference? You think the rest of the motorcycle racing world is going to love him for long? Is that right? Do you think that's unfair? Should he be judged by his on-track activities?

As someone who races I just have a different perspective. You guys can love him or hate him. I don't give a shit. But to show a total lack of respect for a guy and justifying your opinion based on statistics is still missing the point. And I will give another comparison. If any of you follow motocross/supercross Chad Reed is a good example. His Supercross championships came with RC and/or Bubba misssing. So people dog him. I don't like him AT ALL. But he deserves those titles IMO because he was the best of who was out there. And while maybe those guys aren't in the same league as Bubba or RC they are still stupid fucken fast and Chad had to beat them.

[Rider]

So because Nicky is fan friendly he deserves a replica edition? I don't give a shit what he does off the track. On the track he isn't that good compared to the rest of the field. When he start performing as well as Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Stoner, Rossi, or even Divizioso, then I'll buy the idea of a replica. It is Duc's chance to cash in on his fame though.

[z06boy]

Maybe they're just trying to get more Americans to buy Ducati and thought this would appeal to us ?

His first year on the bike and he's not doing so great so it does suprise me that they would be doing a replica in his name.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

How do you know what he's done or anyone else for that matter? Just because you choose to throw your money away pretending to be Rossi doesn't mean that your opinion is the only one that counts! Let's see all of your championships and MotoGp trophies before you start mouthing off that we don't deserve an opinion and you do. Maybe you aught to get Nicky's balls out of your mouth long enough to take a real look at his career. Every championship Hayden has ever "won" has been behind someone truly great having a terrible season. Do you honestly believe that your boy is a better rider than Rossi? Or Mat Mlladin? Come on! Both times he had unarguably the most dominant bikes and it still required 4-6 dnfs by Rossi/Mlladin for him to win a championship.

So the almighty Rossi or Mladin are the only racers that matter??? Really? Come the fuck on now. You did know there was a 18 bike grid you know. Just because Rossi had problems on the M1, means Hayden could go out on an empty track and race himself? How about Capirrossi, Melandri, Roberts, Edwards, a rising Stoner? No? That doesnt matter? Hmmmm.....

And where the fuck are you guys getting on about this "oh, he ran 3-5 all season long.... he slipped into a championship" bullcrap??? Lets see here... 2 wins, 4 seconds, 5 thirds. Thats 11 out of 17 podiums???? Maybe one more if pedro-fag wouldnt have taken him out. And I do believe the point system is intact so that the most consistant rider wins the championship. If you want Vale to win by default by winning the most races and DNF'ing the rest, you guys can go suck F1 and FIA's c**k. Maybe then they will come fuck up one more points system.

Has Hayden blown big the past 2.5 years, YES. Does he deserve a replica, NO!

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Rider

So because Nicky is fan friendly he deserves a replica edition? I don't give a shit what he does off the track. On the track he isn't that good compared to the rest of the field. When he start performing as well as Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Stoner, Rossi, or even Divizioso, then I'll buy the idea of a replica. It is Duc's chance to cash in on his fame though.

Congrats. You've just figured it out. It doesn't matter how good any one guy is or is not. Ducati, at the end of the day, needs to sell motorcycles to stay in business. Just as all motorcycle companies need to do and all businesses need to do. They've got a popular racer on their team and have an opportunity to make some cash using his likeness. Business 101. Doesn't matter if he 'deserves' a replica or not.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by marko138

Congrats. You've just figured it out. It doesn't matter how good any one guy is or is not. Ducati, at the end of the day, needs to sell motorcycles to stay in business. Just as all motorcycle companies need to do and all businesses need to do. They've got a popular racer on their team and have an opportunity to make some cash using his likeness. Business 101. Doesn't matter if he 'deserves' a replica or not.

You have to do whatever you can to stay in the game with the current economy. Having a Hayden edition Duc might sway a few riders. Honestly I'd rather see a Bayliss edition 848 though. He's not American, but he is just as popular if not more than Nicky. Maybe just a standard Marlboro/Alice replica, not rider specific.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Rider

You have to do whatever you can to stay in the game with the current economy. Having a Hayden edition Duc might sway a few riders. Honestly I'd rather see a Bayliss edition 848 though. He's not American, but he is just as popular if not more than Nicky. Maybe just a standard Marlboro/Alice replica, not rider specific.

I'm with you on that.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Rider

You have to do whatever you can to stay in the game with the current economy. Having a Hayden edition Duc might sway a few riders. Honestly I'd rather see a Bayliss edition 848 though. He's not American, but he is just as popular if not more than Nicky. Maybe just a standard Marlboro/Alice replica, not rider specific.

bayliss 848 makes less sense than the 1198 they gave us

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

So the almighty Rossi or Mladin are the only racers that matter??? Really? Come the fuck on now. You did know there was a 18 bike grid you know. Just because Rossi had problems on the M1, means Hayden could go out on an empty track and race himself? How about Capirrossi, Melandri, Roberts, Edwards, a rising Stoner? No? That doesnt matter? Hmmmm.....

And where the fuck are you guys getting on about this "oh, he ran 3-5 all season long.... he slipped into a championship" bullcrap??? Lets see here... 2 wins, 4 seconds, 5 thirds. Thats 11 out of 17 podiums???? Maybe one more if pedro-fag wouldnt have taken him out. And I do believe the point system is intact so that the most consistant rider wins the championship. If you want Vale to win by default by winning the most races and DNF'ing the rest, you guys can go suck F1 and FIA's c**k. Maybe then they will come fuck up one more points system.

Has Hayden blown big the past 2.5 years, YES. Does he deserve a replica, NO!

Ah what do you know? You don't even own a bike.... Hahahaha! That's my point, EVERYONE watching has a right to an opinion. This guy started this with his, "I race so I should know" attitude. If you televise yourself fucking your woman, even if I was a virgin, I'm allowed to have an opinion on your performance. Besides winning the most races wouldn't be my idea of winning the championship by default...

[Smittie61984]

I like plain looking bikes more than over the top designs. But for what it is I like it.