2010 Hayden edition duc 848

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Originally Posted by Speedracer42

Let's not get carried away. Im no Nicky fanboy. I would defend someone like Vermulen in the same manner. He has a WSBK championship and kicked ass over there. Yet hasn't done jack in GP. It doesn't mean he is washed up or talentless or anything. And I also said never said none of you could have an opinion. Only that I did not agree with it. And won't. There is another thread similar to this is regards to Stoner on another forum. People complaining about his lack of interest in fans and dead pan personality. Here is what a WMRC and OMRRA multi time #1 plate holder had to say about it.....



As someone who races I just have a different perspective. You guys can love him or hate him. I don't give a shit. But to show a total lack of respect for a guy and justifying your opinion based on statistics is still missing the point. And I will give another comparison. If any of you follow motocross/supercross Chad Reed is a good example. His Supercross championships came with RC and/or Bubba misssing. So people dog him. I don't like him AT ALL. But he deserves those titles IMO because he was the best of who was out there. And while maybe those guys aren't in the same league as Bubba or RC they are still stupid fucken fast and Chad had to beat them.

And it was prob said by a guy who has never raced a lap in his life. That shit irritates me (as a racer) is all.

Dude this post is full of, "I'm a racer or he's a racer so he should know" bullshit. You think that because someone spends a couple hundred a weekend club racing that his "perspective" on MotoGp or racing in general is more valid than someone who hasn't. Well, I did some club racing back in the day, NOW is my opinion valid? Hayden and his fans have a bucket load of excuses to explain why he can't win. I love it because I predicted this in an old thread. They are already breaking out the "Ducati developed that bike for Stoner" excuse. I wonder about that, since Casey wasn't their "A" rider when he won his championship... BTW everyone is judged statistically, you're not a great pick up artist if you only fuck one hot chick.

Btw I agree that Chad deserved the championships he got but it's the shit that he talks in between the races that makes me dislike him. He won't just acknowledge that Stewart is better than he is. I believe that James is racing a couple outdoors this season, I can't wait to watch him completely smoke Chad Reed.

[Speedracer42]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

And it was prob said by a guy who has never raced a lap in his life. That shit irritates me (as a racer) is all.

Dude this post is full of, "I'm a racer or he's a racer so he should know" bullshit. You think that because someone spends a couple hundred a weekend club racing that his "perspective" on MotoGp or racing in general is more valid than someone who hasn't. Well, I did some club racing back in the day, NOW is my opinion valid? Hayden and his fans have a bucket load of excuses to explain why he can't win. I love it because I predicted this in an old thread. They are already breaking out the "Ducati developed that bike for Stoner" excuse. I wonder about that, since Casey wasn't their "A" rider when he won his championship... BTW everyone is judged statistically, you're not a great pick up artist if you only fuck one hot chick.

Btw I agree that Chad deserved the championships he got but it's the shit that he talks in between the races that makes me dislike him. He won't just acknowledge that Stewart is better than he is. I believe that James is racing a couple outdoors this season, I can't wait to watch him completely smoke Chad Reed.

I do think an opinion on a racers performance is more valid from someone who has raced. You ever see a surgery on tv? Like on "Life in the ER" or a show like that? If you are a plumber and because it is televised your opinion on the docs performance is now valid? People can and should have opinions. But I will certainly put more weight on one's opinion than others. If a newb posted a question on which bike to get and an MSF instructor, a trackday instructor, and a guy who has been riding for 3 days all posted their opinions who's are you more likely to listen to?

And I agree 100% with your sentiments on Reed. This year James doesn't need to be there. Plenty of other guys are showing him the way.

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I dont put stock in anything Tigger says. Dude is a hot air balloon.

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Wow, when did this thread go EPIC??????

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Originally Posted by Speedracer42

I do think an opinion on a racers performance is more valid from someone who has raced. You ever see a surgery on tv? Like on "Life in the ER" or a show like that? If you are a plumber and because it is televised your opinion on the docs performance is now valid? People can and should have opinions. But I will certainly put more weight on one's opinion than others. If a newb posted a question on which bike to get and an MSF instructor, a trackday instructor, and a guy who has been riding for 3 days all posted their opinions who's are you more likely to listen to?

And I agree 100% with your sentiments on Reed. This year James doesn't need to be there. Plenty of other guys are showing him the way.

Well, if the question is who's a better surgeon, Dr Jones or Dr Smith and the plumber has watched 1,000 surgeries with both of these doctors, has all of their success/failure charts, he might know something...

What bike to get is a subjective question full of opinion and conjecture. Who is a better racer is a statistical question easily answered with facts. Example, who's a better racer Hayden or Stoner? Easy Stoner had more wins in 2007 than Hayden has in almost 6 years or racing. Regardless of who you are or what you do, you can't change the facts and Hayden has been sucking it for the past few years period. End of story. This is a matter of fact not opinion. I don't care if you are Agostini, you're "professional" opinion isn't going to change that. In '06 Rossi had 3 DNFs, an 8th, a 13th and a 14th and Nicky still only won the championship by 5 points...

Oh and yea the situation with Reed is funny to me, he just won his 1st outdoor race the other day now that Villipoto and Alessi are out! Hahahaha!