Next bike (MOTARD)

goof2 · 08-06-2009, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean

610 is more of a real sumo with real dirt roots, the 690 is more of a street bike. Don't know if it'd be any good offroad. 610s can be had stupid cheap late in the year when shops like Malcom Smith start discounting, I've seen 'em listed for $6100. The 690 is probably more reliable--the 610 has some issues, throttle cable among them. The DRZ is a bulletproof tank but it's pretty slow.

How does the 510 compare for you performance wise? Is the maintenance as bad as I have heard?

Sean · 08-06-2009, 02:22 PM

Compare to what?

The 510 is a MX bike, not a street bike, so you have to treat it as such. The 06+ ones added a little oil capacity and some ignition changes but you still have to change the oil every 8 hrs of operation or so. Compared to other MX bikes and MX-based sumo conversions, it's easier, but compared to a street bike that weighs 200+ lbs more, it's a pain. As a weekend / trackday toy it's no big deal. Changing the oil is a 10 minute job, there are no panels to remove. Once the valves take a set they tend to stay that way. A Husky will last 4-5x as long as a Honda if broken in correctly.

goof2 · 08-06-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean

Compare to what?

The 510 is a MX bike, not a street bike, so you have to treat it as such. The 06+ ones added a little oil capacity and some ignition changes but you still have to change the oil every 8 hrs of operation or so. Compared to other MX bikes and MX-based sumo conversions, it's easier, but compared to a street bike that weighs 200+ lbs more, it's a pain. As a weekend / trackday toy it's no big deal. Changing the oil is a 10 minute job, there are no panels to remove. Once the valves take a set they tend to stay that way. A Husky will last 4-5x as long as a Honda if broken in correctly.

Concerning performance I was talking about compared to the 610 or 690, the more street oriented sumos. I have read that the MX based bikes are a night and day difference compared to the street biased bikes.

The information you gave about maintenance is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.

fnfalman · 08-07-2009, 03:12 AM

The Husky 610 isn't as race oriented as the 510 but it's still a high maintenance engine. The KTM 690 is a big different. It's all depending on which one you get, the SMC or SMR. The SMR is a lot more race oriented. As far as the KTM 690 being more street oriented, that's called the 690 Duke.

If maintenance is an issue then the DRZ400SM is the way to go.

Or if going balls to the wall is the whole idea behind a supermoto then cross off the Husky, the Hussy, the KTM, the Suzuki, the Ducati, the BMW, the Honda and sign on the line for the Aprilia SXV. If you want a true race pedigree motard with blinkers & lights, then the SXV is it. The SXV4.5 has zowy oomph. The SXV5.5 has shit-in-your-pants oomph.

pdog · 08-07-2009, 04:11 AM

Find me a used SV with ABS and I'll sell you my heavily modded DRZ. 42 hp on the dyno (32 stock) and you just change the oil every 1500 miles.

Antwanny · 08-13-2009, 09:33 PM

well test rode a drz and a 525 mx that was plated for ca(legally). Jesus both were fun the drz was way to gutless at higher speeds. The ktm was a blast, absolutely awesome. Could see myself getting into a ton of trouble on either.

Apoc · 08-13-2009, 10:11 PM

i want a duc 1100 hypermotard.... mmmmm...

Im scared to even bother looking at the price of them though....

karl_1052 · 08-14-2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antwanny

well test rode a drz and a 525 mx that was plated for ca(legally). Jesus both were fun the drz was way to gutless at higher speeds. The ktm was a blast, absolutely awesome. Could see myself getting into a ton of trouble on either.

get the DRZ, cheap, low maintenance, can be modified, fun as hell, and you go the TLR for going fast.

08-07-2009, 03:12 AM	#4
fnfalman Europhile Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure Posts: 1,875	The Husky 610 isn't as race oriented as the 510 but it's still a high maintenance engine. The KTM 690 is a big different. It's all depending on which one you get, the SMC or SMR. The SMR is a lot more race oriented. As far as the KTM 690 being more street oriented, that's called the 690 Duke. If maintenance is an issue then the DRZ400SM is the way to go. Or if going balls to the wall is the whole idea behind a supermoto then cross off the Husky, the Hussy, the KTM, the Suzuki, the Ducati, the BMW, the Honda and sign on the line for the Aprilia SXV. If you want a true race pedigree motard with blinkers & lights, then the SXV is it. The SXV4.5 has zowy oomph. The SXV5.5 has shit-in-your-pants oomph. __________________ *Cogito Ergo Vroom - I think therefore I ride*

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08-06-2009, 02:22 PM	#2
Sean giggity Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: socal Moto: street, sumo & dirty Posts: 1,071	Compare to what? The 510 is a MX bike, not a street bike, so you have to treat it as such. The 06+ ones added a little oil capacity and some ignition changes but you still have to change the oil every 8 hrs of operation or so. Compared to other MX bikes and MX-based sumo conversions, it's easier, but compared to a street bike that weighs 200+ lbs more, it's a pain. As a weekend / trackday toy it's no big deal. Changing the oil is a 10 minute job, there are no panels to remove. Once the valves take a set they tend to stay that way. A Husky will last 4-5x as long as a Honda if broken in correctly.

08-07-2009, 04:11 AM	#5
pdog Refugee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Moto: Pimped 2005 SV650 Posts: 332	Find me a used SV with ABS and I'll sell you my heavily modded DRZ. 42 hp on the dyno (32 stock) and you just change the oil every 1500 miles.

08-13-2009, 09:33 PM	#6
Antwanny WERA White Plate Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,047	well test rode a drz and a 525 mx that was plated for ca(legally). Jesus both were fun the drz was way to gutless at higher speeds. The ktm was a blast, absolutely awesome. Could see myself getting into a ton of trouble on either.

08-13-2009, 10:11 PM	#7
Apoc For Science. You Monster. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Moto: '08 HD FLSTSB Posts: 3,546	i want a duc 1100 hypermotard.... mmmmm... Im scared to even bother looking at the price of them though....