Buell is done, finished, gone

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by Trip

Your wife does and she is more than willing to give us updates on you.

Yep... have fun with that.

Originally Posted by Trip

I know, Ewan and Charlie really put this bike on the map. I don't think it's the biggest fanboy bike by any means. It's not even close. Gixxers beat it easy, but the king of fanboy bikes stands alone without question and no one can deny it: Harley. If you question that, you are clueless.

As far as my bike, I fully understand I could have a fuel pump failure or a final drive failure (major issues with this bike.) I know it's far from perfect and will fully admit it. I don't think it's a bike for everyone and wouldn't recommend it unless I knew it was something you were looking for.

Yes Ewan and Charlie did...big time.

I will agree on the HD thing... and for good reason. HD put serious time and money into that fact. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, has been able to brand themselves better. Really, whether you like HD or not, you must say hats off to them for that.

Originally Posted by derf

5k for a new bike.... yeh I'd take it I'm gonna offer the local dealership my bike as a trade for an 1125, we shall see what they say, the retail value is 4250, trade in is 3000, hell I would pay up to 1k and a trade in for a new 1125r

DO IT!

[tommymac]

they would prolly laugh at me if I tried to trade in my futura


But hey at least its not jappanese LOL

Tom

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, has been able to brand themselves better. Really, whether you like HD or not, you must say hats off to them for that.

One problem, I don't believe it was HD that did it. It's the public that did it. It's the biker gangs and the publics vision of them. The whole outlaw perception. HD played off that. Recent HD ads, I would say have for the most part been targeting lame middle age people. The bike sold itself more than HD sold it.

Plus I don't believe a fanboy perception is a good image. It's means no matter if the product is great or the worst thing ever, you are a stupid sheep and will buy it anyway.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Trip

One problem, I don't believe it was HD that did it. It's the public that did it. It's the biker gangs and the publics vision of them. The whole outlaw perception. HD played off that. Recent HD ads, I would say have for the most part been targeting lame middle age people. The bike sold itself more than HD sold it.

Plus I don't believe a fanboy perception is a good image. It's means no matter if the product is great or the worst thing ever, you are a stupid sheep and will buy it anyway.

Hey I've been guilty of drinking HD kool-aid myself! I literally waited months for the bike and it broke down within a couple hundred miles and I accepted that as just part of the deal... I'm not sure if it was genius marketing by Harley or not but it has always amazed me that people were willing to pay top dollar, almost double at times, for a bike that you KNEW was going to break down, require 3 or 4 times the maintenance, have less performance in every category, almost REQUIRE aftermarket parts, and to top it off-you would have to wait for up to 2 years to get it!!! I know that things have changed but that was the deal for about a decade!!!

BTW someone mentioned the fact that Jap bikes cost almost the same as HD... The Japanese MFGrs have two choices either pay the huge tariffs or build their bikes using over-priced American labor. Either way, it was going to impact the price of a bike. If they could build their bikes overseas and ship them here without tariff, we'd be able to buy GSXR1000s for $8,000!

[derf]

The Jap bikes are not prices comparitevly. Excluding the mobile homes known as gold wings, A zx14 is 12k, busa 13k, honda fury & cbr1000 12k, R1 is 13k. vs the top of the line harleys are 16k and up, and until the last year or 2 good luck paying MSRP.