canada: bike owner charged after loaning out bike

[Trip]

hurray for no self responsibility!

[Kaneman]

Unreal.

[z06boy]

That really sux but I guess 'if that's the law' he should have known.

The guy riding the bike didn't have the proper license to ride it. I didn't say I agree but that's evidently the way it is.

Several years ago I was out one night... in a 1995 Vette that I owned. I got hammered.

The guy that I was hanging out with that night doesn't normally drink...but he did have a drink that night but only one or two.

I gave him the keys...I passed out in the passenger seat. When I woke up there was a NC State Trooper in my Vette starting it up !!!

What had happened was...we had come up on a traffic check and they smelled alcohol on him and pulled him out of the car and was parking my car on the side of the road.

When I woke up I asked the officer what he was doing and told him this was MY car.

Well he said "oh it's your car(?)...then you're going to jail too for aiding and abetting a DWI !!!! "

They took both of us downtown but luckily my friend passed the breathalyzer and we were both turned loose.

Crazy story but true.

We had to get our own way back to my car which was several miles away...what a trip.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by z06boy

That really sux but I guess 'if that's the law' he should have known.

The guy riding the bike didn't have the proper license to ride it. I didn't say I agree but that's evidently the way it is.

Several years ago I was out one night... in a 1995 Vette that I owned. I got hammered.

The guy that I was hanging out with that night doesn't normally drink...but he did have a drink that night but only one or two.

I gave him the keys...I passed out in the passenger seat. When I woke up there was a NC State Trooper in my Vette starting it up !!!

What had happened was...we had come up on a traffic check and they smelled alcohol on him and pulled him out of the car and was parking my car on the side of the road.

When I woke up I asked the officer what he was doing and told him this was MY car.

Well he said "oh it's your car(?)...then you're going to jail too for aiding and abetting a DWI !!!! "

They took both of us downtown but luckily my friend passed the breathalyzer and we were both turned loose.

Crazy story but true.

We had to get our own way back to my car which was several miles away...what a trip.

You are lucky. If that happened here your friend most likely would have been charged with impaired driving or whatever they call it when you are under .08 BAC but they still want to fuck with you. If the cops here take the time to bring you to get breathalyzed you are probably getting arrested for something unless the meter shows .00.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by goof2

You are lucky. If that happened here your friend most likely would have been charged with impaired driving or whatever they call it when you are under .08 BAC but they still want to fuck with you. If the cops here take the time to bring you to get breathalyzed you are probably getting arrested for something unless the meter shows .00.

Oh I agree but actaully it was my friend that was lucky and not me to a certain extent. They chose to not charge him with anything but yes I guess they could have.

However as far as me being lucky...the possible charge was "Aiding and abetting a DUI"...well since he didn't blow an .08...I could NOT be charged with anything since his .06 did not constitute a DUI. That is the exact words the magistrate used when the officer asked about me.

They could have charged my friend still being under the influence though as you and I both said.

Actually I WAS LUCKY on another point. There was a loaded Glock under the driver's seat that was mine. I immediatly told the officer about it too but no big deal was made of it I guess because we didn't give them any negative/cocky attitude at all at anytime I do have a conceal carry permit but obviously that goes out the window when under the influence. I knew that at the time but again...after the officer's looked at it and since I had volunteered the info and everything checked out when they ran a check on it and my non existant criminal record...all was good. It may also have helped that I work in Executive Protection for a very large prominant company and work with LEO's and ex LEO's everyday.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by z06boy

Oh I agree but actaully it was my friend that was lucky and not me to a certain extent. They chose to not charge him with anything but yes I guess they could have.

However as far as me being lucky...the possible charge was "Aiding and abetting a DUI"...well since he didn't blow an .08...I could NOT be charged with anything since his .06 did not constitute a DUI. That is the exact words the magistrate used when the officer asked about me.

They could have charged my friend still being under the influence though as you and I both said.

Actually I WAS LUCKY on another point. There was a loaded Glock under the driver's seat that was mine. I immediatly told the officer about it too but no big deal was made of it I guess because we didn't give them any negative/cocky attitude at all at anytime I do have a conceal carry permit but obviously that goes out the window when under the influence. I knew that at the time but again...after the officer's looked at it and since I had volunteered the info and everything checked out when they ran a check on it and my non existant criminal record...all was good. It may also have helped that I work in Executive Protection for a very large prominant company and work with LEO's and ex LEO's everyday.

That seems to be the best plan. Don't be a dick and hope they reciprocate. It definitely would have been a lot worse for your friend, but I'm guessing your car would have been impounded, you having to get a cab home, and getting a ride back the next day to bail your friend and car out. From my experience a cop can make your life as miserable as they want, the charge is irrelevant.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by goof2

That seems to be the best plan. Don't be a dick and hope they reciprocate. It definitely would have been a lot worse for your friend, but I'm guessing your car would have been impounded, you having to get a cab home, and getting a ride back the next day to bail your friend and car out. From my experience a cop can make your life as miserable as they want, the charge is irrelevant.

Agreed 100 %.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Trip

hurray for no self responsibility!

seriously. Lets charge the manufacturer too for making such a dangerous contraption. we wouldnt want people to hurt themselves

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Dave

seriously. Lets charge the manufacturer too for making such a dangerous contraption. we wouldnt want people to hurt themselves

Its coming, and probably not too far off.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by Dave

seriously. Lets charge the manufacturer too for making such a dangerous contraption. we wouldnt want people to hurt themselves

Well there was a case this morning on the news about some kid dying from getting hit with a baseball (I think) and the parents were suing "Louisville Slugger" for making the aluminum bat !!!! WTF ???????