Anyone else sick of this?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Tmall

There is a shaft in your transmission called a "parking pawl" that supports the weight of your vehicle when it is parked. No doubt the park brake is a better option. Also, if the transmission can handle the accelerative forces of the engine, it can handle the engines weight while it is stopped..

But if you have to use all your strength to yank the lever out of Park because it's holding the car on a steep incline, couldn't you be damaging that shaft?

Originally Posted by Tmall

Now, neither of those things are particularly good for you car,but I wouldn't put too much thought into them when buying a vehicle..

But if something isn't good for the car, and it doesn't benefit you in any way, why do it?

Originally Posted by Tmall

I can see what you're saying about motor mounts, except that they're designed to take up flex and vibration. If they're near breaking, this wouldn't help them. But, causing them to wear faster? I don't see it...

Most mounts are made of rubber, and some have fluid in them as well. On my car, a common failure is the mounts getting stretched to the point where the rubber tears, thus leaking out all the fluid inside. And then later, the rubber starts separating from the metal casing. Why would anyone want to hasten this process?

Originally Posted by Tmall

Wanna know what's hard on a car? Starting it and then immediately driving off without letting the oil thin out and circulate. Turning the wheel while you're stopped, it's much harder on the steering components than while you're moving. Running your a/c then not running just the fan after, this allows moisture and eventually mold to build in your system.

All true. Also:
#1 Lugging your engine uphill at low rpm.
#2 Holding your steering at full lock for an extended time.
#3 Driving in sub-freezing weather and suddenly turning on the defroster -- This causes any cracks in the windshield to expand. Turn the defroster on SOONER, before the heating system is piping hot.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

But if something isn't good for the car, and it doesn't benefit you in any way, why do it?

Your stance is this is something women do.

Women use the same argument about blow jobs.

You do the math.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Your stance is this is something women do.

Women use the same argument about blow jobs.

You do the math.

So pleasing your S.O. doesn't give you reciprocal benefits?

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

But if you have to use all your strength to yank the lever out of Park because it's holding the car on a steep incline, couldn't you be damaging that shaft?



But if something isn't good for the car, and it doesn't benefit you in any way, why do it?


Most mounts are made of rubber, and some have fluid in them as well. On my car, a common failure is the mounts getting stretched to the point where the rubber tears, thus leaking out all the fluid inside. And then later, the rubber starts separating from the metal casing. Why would anyone want to hasten this process?



All true.

Also:
#1 Lugging your engine uphill at low rpm.
#2 Holding your steering at full lock for an extended time.

Numbering these so I don't confuse myself.

1. If they have to use all of their strength, then there is something messed up there.. Hard to say what the cause is though. I do agree that it's stupid to not use your park brake on a hill. I use it every single time I stop my vehicle.

2. NOTHING is good for your vehicle. Sun fades the paint and breaks down the rubber. Driving it causes wear. Get what I'm saying? I see your point, but at the same time I don't see these being big enough issues to change somebody's driving style.

3. Your motor mounts sound like our "shock mounts" on the boat. They're rubber boots filled with very thick silicone. They dampen vibration and absorb shock. I can honestly say I've never know anybody who has had motor mounts fail. I know of people who have had cab mounts fail on pickup trucks, but I've never experience a motor mount failure.

4. NEVER lug your engine. You're slowing down the engine rpm to below what it needs to sustain itself. Lubrication would be effected because it needs centrifugal force to form their hydrodynamic wedge which your crank shaft rides on. Metal to metal contact could occur.

5. I just cracked my windshield recently and it wasn't cold out. I turned on the heat, damn thign spread right across my windshield. I was very pissed off.

[HurricaneHeather]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Lubrication would be effected because it needs centrifugal force to form their hydrodynamic wedge which your crank shaft rides on.

This sentence is funny.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Tmall

1. If they have to use all of their strength, then there is something messed up there.. Hard to say what the cause is though.

It's because they put it into Park and then took their foot off the brake, allowing the transmission to "catch" the car ....... instead of pulling the parking brake first, like they should.

Originally Posted by Tmall

I can honestly say I've never know anybody who has had motor mounts fail. I know of people who have had cab mounts fail on pickup trucks, but I've never experience a motor mount failure.

It's pretty common on Ford Probes and Mazda 626 --- It's a transverse-mounted engine, so it rocks back and forth with every application of the gas......There are 5 mounts on it, but the rear one on the firewall is the first to go because it wasn't designed very well.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

It's because they put it into Park and then took their foot off the brake, allowing the transmission to "catch" the car ....... instead of pulling the parking brake first, like they should.


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right then when putting it into drive, you can hear it grinding, esp on heavier veh. minivans/suvs, i don't even like doing that on our small cars.

and we've gotten in the habit of doing it all over, and our cars are both autos.

[CrazyKell]

I've always used my e-brake.

I learned on an Auto but have been driving stick since I was 21 so it's just a given.