Which scenario breeds the better rider?

[Homeslice]

Depends how big the cruiser is. If it's some 800-lb monster, the rider will probably spend all that time chicken-footing it around, learning almost nothing.

[derf]

I dunno, there are some folks out there who can throw down on a cruiser

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by derf

I dunno, there are some folks out there who can throw down on a cruiser

because they started on a dirtbike when they were like 5

in fact that should have been the #1 choice in your survey

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

because they started on a dirtbike when they were like 5

in fact that should have been the #1 choice in your survey

I was going to say dirt bike riders seem to make a pretty good rider overall. But what the hell do I know.

[ericr]

In reality it'll be the guy that is willing to explore the limits of whatever bike he's on and has the skill to use it. Yes a sportbike is more capable but if all the rider does is run fast on the straights and cruise the main drag... There are a lot of sportbike riders out there that can only outrun me on a straight.

I'd agree with Homeslice, the one that started on dirt at 5 and never quit riding

[tached1000rr]

For what it's worth, I intentionally left dirt bikes and riders off. I fall in that category of starting out early as a kid on dirt bikes so I agree with that school of thought.

[Antwanny]

in general B but exceptions for everything. I personally think dirt riding first makes you bettuh than all of these.

[FT BSTRD]

There was actually a study on this. I'll see if I can find it.

The conclusions of the study were that it was more dangerous for riders to switch from a sportbike to a cruiser than to switch from a cruiser to a sportbike.

The reasoning was that the performance envelope of a sportbike is much broader than a cruiser. A cruiser rider has mentally locked in stopping distances, corner entry speeds, and traction variables for their particular bike. A sportbike's performance envelope exceeds these locked in variables.

A sportbike rider also has mentally locked in shorter stopping distances, higher corner entry speeds, and better traction variables compared to the performance envelope of a cruiser.

The end result is that a sportbike rider is more easily able to accidentally exceed the perforance envelope of a cruiser than a cruiser rider is able to accidentally exceed the perfornace envelope of a sport bike.

[tached1000rr]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

There was actually a study on this. I'll see if I can find it.

The conclusions of the study were that it was more dangerous for riders to switch from a sportbike to a cruiser than to switch from a cruiser to a sportbike.

The reasoning was that the performance envelope of a sportbike is much broader than a cruiser. A cruiser rider has mentally locked in stopping distances, corner entry speeds, and traction variables for their particular bike. A sportbike's performance envelope exceeds these locked in variables.

A sportbike rider also has mentally locked in shorter stopping distances, higher corner entry speeds, and better traction variables compared to the performance envelope of a cruiser.

The end result is that a sportbike rider is more easily able to accidentally exceed the perforance envelope of a cruiser than a cruiser rider is able to accidentally exceed the perfornace envelope of a sport bike.

Interesting and I can see their reasoning

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

There was actually a study on this. I'll see if I can find it.

The conclusions of the study were that it was more dangerous for riders to switch from a sportbike to a cruiser than to switch from a cruiser to a sportbike.

The reasoning was that the performance envelope of a sportbike is much broader than a cruiser. A cruiser rider has mentally locked in stopping distances, corner entry speeds, and traction variables for their particular bike. A sportbike's performance envelope exceeds these locked in variables.

A sportbike rider also has mentally locked in shorter stopping distances, higher corner entry speeds, and better traction variables compared to the performance envelope of a cruiser.

The end result is that a sportbike rider is more easily able to accidentally exceed the perforance envelope of a cruiser than a cruiser rider is able to accidentally exceed the perfornace envelope of a sport bike.

I agree with this 100%. Having been on sportbikes all my life, then taking friends cruisers for a ride you immediately see that the brakes suck, the thing drags hard parts at 20% lean angles and you cannot manuever all that well.

It is just easier to ride a lighter bike fast.