Gas Man and marko pillage the East (MASSIVE pics)

[nhgunnut]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Thanks Marko. I actually asked him if they were heely (SP?) cut or straight. At any rate they were loud as F. Being directly under you, no exhaust will even cover up that noise.

And Yes Marko. I'm with ya. Say what you want about pushrods as non-believers. My 96" has way more power than that 106". My bike is basically stock. I have done no performence mods. not even my slip ons. Don't believe me.

Marko rode each bike only once. Everything felt more refined and solid on my HD. However, I still think the Victory felt better than most metric cruisers I have rode.

I am sorry but , respectfully, the salesman was wrong. I have had the 01 and 03 transmissions apart.
A Place to check would be Lloydz Motorworkz at www.quickvic-usa.com Lloyd Greer is the probably the best non factory Vic wrench in the US he also wrenches HD's
As far perceived power that is relative, and there is no doubt that the HD makes its power down lower than the Victory. The Vic like The point of the mods is that you can achieve the same low end torque as t the Pushrods motors, if you choose.
I agree if were financing a bike I wouldn't pull it apart. (when it comes to Bikes, I believe SS stands for stock sucks and nothing I own is stock.)
Lest anyone think I am bashing HDs I am not, I just instinctively root for the Underdog,
Again I feel a little foolish defending Victory while mine is for sale.
My Bias will always be away from pushrod engines

[Gas Man]

Yep, as I said, I don't know how the trans gears are cut but they are loud as F. Any adjustment to the throttle brings on the noise. Mechanic/salesman whatever wrong or not, doesn't change the noise level.

I still root for them, cause they are American made. But I don't see em overcoming the HD craze. I still think HD is more for your buck. And they are priced about the same when you compare apples to apples. I've done a few of the vic builds on their site... and poof... same if not more $$

[marko138]

I'm not knocking them either. I'll root for an American company any day. And, really, they were nice bikes. All I'm saying is that the level of refinement wasn't up to the Harley Davidson. Plain and simple. Would a few mods change that? Maybe. But I'm sure as shit not taking my engine apart to get it up to snuff.

[nhgunnut]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Yep, as I said, I don't know how the trans gears are cut but they are loud as F. Any adjustment to the throttle brings on the noise. Mechanic/salesman whatever wrong or not, doesn't change the noise level.

I still root for them, cause they are American made. But I don't see em overcoming the HD craze. I still think HD is more for your buck. And they are priced about the same when you compare apples to apples. I've done a few of the vic builds on their site... and poof... same if not more $$

Gas you are right- Regardless of why you are right you hear the tranny and if the bike is not broken in you will also clearly hear the cam chains
The only point I will make about price is that Victory on average can be purchased 15 to 20 % below retail and in the case of the one I bought as a leftover a little better than 30% below retail. That is where I find the value.

[Gas Man]

That type of below MSRP would be nice. HD definately isn't that way. If you want that you better look at used.