2011 Big Four model changes?

[smileyman]

Suzuk didnt even import any '10 literbikes, they aren't doing anything.

Yammie is riding Spies WSBK success, new colors.

Honda will refine but no major changes, they just got the pistons right.

That leaves the ZX which was already close to top of class and prolly only minor changes...

[tommymac]

the 750 makes a great track bike though

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Suzuk didnt even import any '10 literbikes, they aren't doing anything.

Yammie is riding Spies WSBK success, new colors.

Honda will refine but no major changes, they just got the pistons right.

That leaves the ZX which was already close to top of class and prolly only minor changes...

That's exactly why I see the gen 4 rumours being true. Kwack wants racing success and if everyone else is on 3-4 year old bikes... hell, even vermulen said there was going to be new equipment next year iirc

[smileyman]

The global economy makes the choices for them. Who is hurting worse will have to make appropriate steps.

I think companies have to look at the sales and decide. Honda dealers always have new 2 yr old bikes on the showroom, Suzuki didnt import cause of slow sales, , Who knows what gambles they will take while they cant get bikes finaced....

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

The global economy makes the choices for them. Who is hurting worse will have to make appropriate steps.

I think companies have to look at the sales and decide. Honda dealers always have new 2 yr old bikes on the showroom, Suzuki didnt import cause of slow sales, , Who knows what gambles they will take while they cant get bikes finaced....

Again, of all of them khi has the most diverse range of products. They don't need sales

[derf]

Originally Posted by smileyman

The global economy makes the choices for them. Who is hurting worse will have to make appropriate steps.

I think companies have to look at the sales and decide. Honda dealers always have new 2 yr old bikes on the showroom, Suzuki didnt import cause of slow sales, , Who knows what gambles they will take while they cant get bikes finaced....

250 2 strokes???

[Dave]

Originally Posted by derf

250 2 strokes???

I wish, its a true shame the vee due didn't catch on

[Rider]

The gix 600 and 750 are due for an update.

Derf: The nice thing about the 750 is that it really is a 600 that has had the engine punched out 150cc over. The bikes are identical right down to every bolt. The only difference are the cylinder bore and some fuel mapping(and color options of course). It's a better bike than a 600 for both street and track. It's the best of both worlds. 600 handling with liter bike power. Just because it doesn't have a race class, means it's an obsolete bike. For a street going sport bike, a 750 is all I would ever own..... As long as they were still in production.

[smileyman]

I will heartily agree. It is the perfect compromise. I wish I had an old ZX7. My 636 would run all over it, but they were excellent fun bikes. That and I drooled over the Muzzy Bikes bac in the Day...

The current 750 may have less displacement but it has as much performance as the first couple generations of R1. And it has better suspension than most ten year old designs...

[derf]

Originally Posted by Rider

Derf: The nice thing about the 750 is that it really is a 600 that has had the engine punched out 150cc over. The bikes are identical right down to every bolt. The only difference are the cylinder bore and some fuel mapping(and color options of course). It's a better bike than a 600 for both street and track. It's the best of both worlds. 600 handling with liter bike power. Just because it doesn't have a race class, means it's an obsolete bike. For a street going sport bike, a 750 is all I would ever own..... As long as they were still in production.

Ok i thought it was a different and seperate bike that required a full re-design team and resources to update. The ZX7r was its own bike and needed its own design. It still requires suzuki resources to design build, and test a bored out engine, and I wonder if the profit they make from selling the 750 is worth the extra effort to build a seperate engine.

Originally Posted by Particle Man

I dropped by the local Suzuki dealership the other day and they're being told that there's only going to be a "limited number" of new motorcycles imported for the upcoming model year and that for a lot of models like the V-Strom the '09 is still to be considered the "current" model (which is why my most recent attempt to obtain a new one at a decent price fell through).

Yeh I've been looking at Vstroms too (not seriously) and they are holding their value big time right now, with many of them selling at or near new price, and the new ones at or above full MSRP