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Old 05-18-2008, 11:50 AM   #1
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I'm gonna stop by my house and grab my service manual when I head out....still it will be a few hours till I'm available with it.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:19 PM   #2
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ran across this while looking up fuel pump removal...

http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/s...ad.php?t=99476
Make : BUELL
Model : XB12X
Year : 2006, 2007
Manufacturer : BUELL MOTORCYCLE CO.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 07V026000
Mfr's Report Date : JAN 24, 2007
Component: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 2044

Summary:
CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES MAY HAVE A VIBRATION AT THE MOUNTING LOCATION OF THE BANK ANGLE SENSOR WHICH, IF COMBINED WITH THE MISROUTING OF VARIOUS WIRES THAT IMPINGE ON THE SENSOR OR ITS PIGTAIL, CAN COMPROMISE THE ISOLATION OF THE BANK ANGLE SENSOR.

Consequence:
THIS MAY CREATE A FALSE 'TIP' SIGNAL AND CAUSE THE ENGINE TO QUIT RUNNING WHILE BEING DRIVEN, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Remedy:
DEALERS WILL MOVE THE BANK ANGLE SENSOR FROM THE ORIGINAL LOCATION ON THE BATTERY TRAY TO A LOCATION ON THE SEAT LATCH. THE RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 5, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BUELL AT 1-414-343-8400.

Notes:
BUELL RECALL NO. 0839. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION¿S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:40 PM   #3
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ok they got in touch with a local guy thanks to Marko and he's offered a place to crash and has a connection with a buell tech.



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Old 05-18-2008, 02:50 PM   #4
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ok they got in touch with a local guy thanks to Marko and he's offered a place to crash and has a connection with a buell tech.



Thats great.
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Old 05-18-2008, 03:13 PM   #5
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ran across this while looking up fuel pump removal...

http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/s...ad.php?t=99476
Make : BUELL
Model : XB12X
Year : 2006, 2007
Manufacturer : BUELL MOTORCYCLE CO.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 07V026000
Mfr's Report Date : JAN 24, 2007
Component: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 2044

Summary:
CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES MAY HAVE A VIBRATION AT THE MOUNTING LOCATION OF THE BANK ANGLE SENSOR WHICH, IF COMBINED WITH THE MISROUTING OF VARIOUS WIRES THAT IMPINGE ON THE SENSOR OR ITS PIGTAIL, CAN COMPROMISE THE ISOLATION OF THE BANK ANGLE SENSOR.

Consequence:
THIS MAY CREATE A FALSE 'TIP' SIGNAL AND CAUSE THE ENGINE TO QUIT RUNNING WHILE BEING DRIVEN, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Good find. I was thinking it was the kickstand safety switch. To get back on the road, find the tip over switch and bypass it.
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Old 05-18-2008, 03:16 PM   #6
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They've probly figured this out by now...but...the swingarm has to come off to get to the fuel pump.
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They've probly figured this out by now...but...the swingarm has to come off to get to the fuel pump.
Glad to hear they've worked it out but I have to ask- is a slight improvement in center of mass and handling really worth this much of a hassle for basic roadside repairs?
I'm a fan of innovation and all but when it's not used for racing at all, why make such a convoluted, user-unfriendly design as that? Erik Buell is all about doing thing's his own way and you owners love the handling but he should take into consideration the needs of his customers who will eventually have to figure out his innovative, complicated designs on the side of the road without diagrams.

I'm sure ducati's and other "think outside the box" bikes are a bitch to work on also, this is just a good time to pick on buell.
On both Suzuki's I've owned the inner workers seem completely intuitively laid out. Even my wrench-retarded has been able to figure out small issues without the manuals help. I guess that's the trade off between having a "bike with soul" and just another gsxr.
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:21 PM   #8
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Glad to hear they've worked it out but I have to ask- is a slight improvement in center of mass and handling really worth this much of a hassle for basic roadside repairs?
I'm a fan of innovation and all but when it's not used for racing at all, why make such a convoluted, user-unfriendly design as that? Erik Buell is all about doing thing's his own way and you owners love the handling but he should take into consideration the needs of his customers who will eventually have to figure out his innovative, complicated designs on the side of the road without diagrams.

I'm sure ducati's and other "think outside the box" bikes are a bitch to work on also, this is just a good time to pick on buell.
On both Suzuki's I've owned the inner workers seem completely intuitively laid out. Even my wrench-retarded has been able to figure out small issues without the manuals help. I guess that's the trade off between having a "bike with soul" and just another gsxr.
exactly what I was thinking... wonder how hard it is to take the swing arm off?
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:33 PM   #9
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i remember "someone" lol telling u about pingle fuel filters way back when you were having some issues with your tank.

if you're always willing to help, thats a gd number to have
Yep... you were one of the first to suggest it. Remember my only concern was fuel flow... but you were right!

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1. happy birthday... (it's my bro's bday too)

2. yeah I was most defiantly going to be going over my bike really closely before I take off... and the pingle filter is what I was planning on doing after your last post about it...

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ok they got in touch with a local guy thanks to Marko and he's offered a place to crash and has a connection with a buell tech.

How did the infamous Marko pull this off?

Did they make any miles today? What's the update on the bike?
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ran across this while looking up fuel pump removal...

http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/s...ad.php?t=99476
Make : BUELL
Model : XB12X
Year : 2006, 2007
Manufacturer : BUELL MOTORCYCLE CO.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 07V026000
Mfr's Report Date : JAN 24, 2007
Component: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 2044

Summary:
CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES MAY HAVE A VIBRATION AT THE MOUNTING LOCATION OF THE BANK ANGLE SENSOR WHICH, IF COMBINED WITH THE MISROUTING OF VARIOUS WIRES THAT IMPINGE ON THE SENSOR OR ITS PIGTAIL, CAN COMPROMISE THE ISOLATION OF THE BANK ANGLE SENSOR.

Consequence:
THIS MAY CREATE A FALSE 'TIP' SIGNAL AND CAUSE THE ENGINE TO QUIT RUNNING WHILE BEING DRIVEN, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Remedy:
DEALERS WILL MOVE THE BANK ANGLE SENSOR FROM THE ORIGINAL LOCATION ON THE BATTERY TRAY TO A LOCATION ON THE SEAT LATCH. THE RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 5, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BUELL AT 1-414-343-8400.

Notes:
BUELL RECALL NO. 0839. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION¿S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
Kind of late now, but when I looked at the latest issue of Motorcyclist at the library today, there was a "Doin' Time" long-term test of the Buell Ulysses XB12X. Their bike would quit running without warning and without pattern. Here's what the article said:

"Turns out a problem with the bank-angle (tip-over) sensor mounting on some 2007 models could cause a false signal that kills the motor. Buell issued a recall to address this problem by relocating the sensor from the battery tray to a less vibration-prone location on the subframe. If you own a Uly, get this fixed."
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