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Old 05-03-2011, 10:20 AM   #1
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So I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I was one of the only ones watching people gather in the streets to celebrate Bin Laden's death and feeling very sad?
I didn't have the same level of excitement that was portrayed in the media, on the streets, and across the web...

Kind of a 'meh' moment... it came too late for me to be excited because it opened a lot of old wounds for a lot of people and I don't really think Al Qaeda could be any more disorganized these days...

Definitely a big moment for our military, which I can appreciate... but I think a lot of the excitement was coming from people who were really only out to support their boy in office. I have a feeling that the outpouring of positives from the celebrity and youth subsets of our culture would have looked much different if this was done on Bush's watch.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:27 AM   #2
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I didn't have the same level of excitement that was portrayed in the media, on the streets, and across the web...

Kind of a 'meh' moment... it came too late for me to be excited because it opened a lot of old wounds for a lot of people and I don't really think Al Qaeda could be any more disorganized these days...

Definitely a big moment for our military, which I can appreciate... but I think a lot of the excitement was coming from people who were really only out to support their boy in office. I have a feeling that the outpouring of positives from the celebrity and youth subsets of our culture would have looked much different if this was done on Bush's watch.
It just seemed like a cross between Idiocracy and Team America World Police...only playing out in real life on live TV. We seem to be so easily herded.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:01 AM   #3
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It just seemed like a cross between Idiocracy and Team America World Police...only playing out in real life on live TV. We seem to be so easily herded.
What do you think the "proper" response was?
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:30 AM   #4
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It just seemed like a cross between Idiocracy and Team America World Police...only playing out in real life on live TV. We seem to be so easily herded.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:40 AM   #5
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This is why the Starship Troopers service = citizenship model is a bad idea.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:02 PM   #6
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This is why the Starship Troopers service = citizenship model is a bad idea.
Interesting. The earned citizenship model was originally a Roman thing. True their empire only lasted about 3000 years but it was one way of recruiting foreign and domestic troops to their cause. Eventually the hope of citizenship from Rome was replaced by their own generals for rewards of a more meaningful manner, those of estates and wealth...
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:13 PM   #7
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This is why the Starship Troopers service = citizenship model is a bad idea.
If service was a requirement, you'd get a wider variety of people in it. Not just the "fuck yeah" types. So I'm not sure I understand the objection.
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If service was a requirement, you'd get a wider variety of people in it. Not just the "fuck yeah" types. So I'm not sure I understand the objection.
You would have to change the private sector to meet that same requirement or it would fall into the same trap as government programs like NASA. The best and brightest use to want to work for NASA, not anymore. They all go private sector and make shit tons more money there over NASA. The military wouldn't really gain all that much, people would still rather go private sector unless you made special rules for that. Basically America wouldn't be America anymore if we did it and it would still be just as fucked up.
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You would have to change the private sector to meet that same requirement or it would fall into the same trap as government programs like NASA. The best and brightest use to want to work for NASA, not anymore. They all go private sector and make shit tons more money there over NASA. The military wouldn't really gain all that much, people would still rather go private sector unless you made special rules for that. Basically America wouldn't be America anymore if we did it and it would still be just as fucked up.
A friend works over at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
He does well....
He wants out.

I think NASA is still a desirable destination for youngins. It depends on the field.
My friend who works there wants out but his goal was always a university position.
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