Guess he can start on whoppers now

[the chi]

Mmmmhmmm. You realize that once you have fat cells they don't ever go away right? I'm not going into specifics but while right now you may be thinner, etc in the long run you are doing more harm than good...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by the chi

Mmmmhmmm. You realize that once you have fat cells they don't ever go away right? I'm not going into specifics but while right now you may be thinner, etc in the long run you are doing more harm than good...

Doesn't matter to me in the slightest

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Dave

Doesn't matter to me in the slightest

It will when your body (organs, brain, nervous system, digestive system) stop working and responding the way they should.

You need a proper diet and exercise to lose weight and be healthy, period. Skinny does not equal healthy, and if you keep trying to subsist on an unhealthy calory deficit, your going to crash hard. Not to mention that Caroline is 100% right, your body will stop burning far, and start storing it, and it will happen very soon. Add that to the fact that you may be skinnier, but its because your mostly burning muscle, as your body wont burn fat when your not eating properly. So sure, you may end up skinny, but you'll have a high percentage of body fat, and very soon you'll start felling extremely weak, and your thought process will slow down.

Get off your ass, go the gym, walk, and eat right. Any other way is the wrong way.

Not that I care, do what you want, but dont argue with people who know better when its obvious you dont have a clue what your doing/talking about.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Apoc

It will when your body (organs, brain, nervous system, digestive system) stop working and responding the way they should.

You need a proper diet and exercise to lose weight and be healthy, period. Skinny does not equal healthy, and if you keep trying to subsist on an unhealthy calory deficit, your going to crash hard. Not to mention that Caroline is 100% right, your body will stop burning far, and start storing it, and it will happen very soon. Add that to the fact that you may be skinnier, but its because your mostly burning muscle, as your body wont burn fat when your not eating properly. So sure, you may end up skinny, but you'll have a high percentage of body fat, and very soon you'll start felling extremely weak, and your thought process will slow down.

Get off your ass, go the gym, walk, and eat right. Any other way is the wrong way.

Not that I care, do what you want, but dont argue with people who know better when its obvious you dont have a clue what your doing/talking about.

The wild assumptions, backing somone up whose post implied its own lack of knowlege, not even getting that person's NAME right...you think the ads in m&f are real articles don't you?

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Dave

The wild assumptions, backing somone up whose post implied its own lack of knowlege, not even getting that person's NAME right...you think the ads in m&f are real articles don't you?

Bla, I mixed up the elf with Caroline (archren), simple mistake.

And no, I dont read M&F, and I know more about nutrition than anyone here, save for maybe 101. I actually own and read university level books on the subject (many, I have about 30), and have an actual understanding about how calories and nutrients work within the body. You can do whatever the fuck you want, your body can fucking rot from the inside out for all I care, but dont ever fucking post the shit you do on the subject and then try to question or blatantly say I know nothing on a subject that i've been fucking interested in and studying for almost 10 years.

Its obvious you dont know shit, so dont fucking pretend otherwise. I lived it, I bodybuilded for years, and ate and trained properly every fucking day, down to gram and microgram of macro and micro-nutrition.

I dont care if you only eat 200 fucking calories a day, it doesnt affect me. But dont try and pretend your methods are effective or correct, all because you'd rather be a lazy ass motherfucker than actually do things right.

[Archren]

Originally Posted by Apoc

Bla, I mixed up the elf with Caroline (archren), simple mistake.

Rae is way cooler than me.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Archren

Rae is way cooler than me.

pfffft. Like I said, I'm in no way offended at being confused with you.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Apoc

Bla, I mixed up the elf with Caroline (archren), simple mistake.

And no, I dont read M&F, and I know more about nutrition than anyone here, save for maybe 101. I actually own and read university level books on the subject (many, I have about 30), and have an actual understanding about how calories and nutrients work within the body. You can do whatever the fuck you want, your body can fucking rot from the inside out for all I care, but dont ever fucking post the shit you do on the subject and then try to question or blatantly say I know nothing on a subject that i've been fucking interested in and studying for almost 10 years.

Its obvious you dont know shit, so dont fucking pretend otherwise. I lived it, I bodybuilded for years, and ate and trained properly every fucking day, down to gram and microgram of macro and micro-nutrition.

I dont care if you only eat 200 fucking calories a day, it doesnt affect me. But dont try and pretend your methods are effective or correct, all because you'd rather be a lazy ass motherfucker than actually do things right.

When did I ever pretend I knew what I was talking about? You've made the whole thing up as an excuse to write a book about how intellegent you are. All over an offhand comment that's not even close to accurate. Keep going though, if you say fuck two more times you'll have rewritten limp bizkit's "hot dog"

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Dave

When did I ever pretend I knew what I was talking about? You've made the whole thing up as an excuse to write a book about how intellegent you are. All over an offhand comment that's not even close to accurate.

backing somone up whose post implied its own lack of knowlege, not even getting that person's NAME right...you think the ads in m&f are real articles don't you?

Two people made perfectly friendly posts to actually help you, then you went off with that second stupid comment I quoted. Nobody made anything up as an excuse for anything, and this whole arguement was the result of your ignorance on the subject.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Dave

The wild assumptions, backing somone up whose post implied its own lack of knowlege, not even getting that person's NAME right...you think the ads in m&f are real articles don't you?

Aside from him getting my name wrong (which I dont mind I promise), you ASSUME we both dont know what we're talking about. I can assure you, you're wrong. Perhaps you need to talk to a doc sweetie, but ridiculing people for trying to let you know that you are damaging yourself is pretty ignorant.

Perhaps I can refer you to my doctor, my teacher, and my personal trainer, as well as any online website that can tell you the truth.

http://www.everydayhealth.com/weight...etabolism.aspx

http://www.livestrong.com/article/29...ries-in-a-day/

Specifically:

Significance
If you are trying to lose weight, consuming too few calories in a day can significantly alter weight loss goals. According to the consumer health information site Net Wellness, if your calorie intake falls below 50 percent of your RMR, your body goes into starvation mode. As this occurs, fat metabolism stops and lean tissue and muscle mass metabolism begins. According to registered dietitian and writer Juliette Kellow, as you begin losing muscle mass, metabolism slows ever further as decreasing muscle and tissue mass requires less energy to function, and weight loss slows or stops.

Any licensed health professional will tell you this.