Darwins law in action

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Um, surivial of the fittest? Pretty common knowledge I'd say.

And it doesn't just have to do with evolution.....There's Social Darwinism as well. As in, stupid people should be allowed to kill themselves off.

No, its not survival of the fittest. Darwinism is about survival of the most well adapted. Something with a thick heavy coat will survive better in cold climates than something without one, no matter how big and strong the animal without that thick fur may be, for example. Survival of the fittest is a term that in no way means what your saying it does. Its about genetic evolution and the ability to adapt to climate/conditions local to any certain species.

Like I said, you have no idea what 'Darwinism' actually is. Social Darwinism is a recent term that has nothing at all to do with the theory that Charles Darwin put forth. Its uneducated fools who used the term for something that actually has nothing to do with the concept in its original form.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Apoc

No, its not survival of the fittest. Darwinism is about survival of the most well adapted. Something with a thick heavy coat will survive better in cold climates than something without one, no matter how big and strong the animal without that thick fur may be, for example. Survival of the fittest is a term that in no way means what your saying it does. Its about genetic evolution and the ability to adapt to climate/conditions local to any certain species.

Like I said, you have no idea what 'Darwinism' actually is. Social Darwinism is a recent term that has nothing at all to do with the theory that Charles Darwin put forth. Its uneducated fools who used the term for something that actually has nothing to do with the concept in its original form.

Well I'm glad I gave you the opportunity to call me an uneducated fool. After all, you have always seemed to hold a grudge against me for whatever reason.

Look up Social Darwinism to see why I mentioned it. It's a political/sociological concept that has nothing to do with evolution, so I'm not even sure why you went there. I guess maybe it's because I also used the phrase "Darwin's Law" or "Darwin's Rule".......But I used it in the same way everyone else uses it -- To describe an idiot who owns himself by doing something stupid. This isn't biology class, it's a fucking motorcycle board.....we don't need to be accurate about what Darwin actually meant. It's a pop culture phrase which is used quite regularly, at least down here.

And you really think you're the only one who knows how evolution works? You must think people are really stupid if you think that they see the word "fittest" in the phrase "survival of the fittest" and assume that it means that the most athletic animals survived. It's just a fucking phrase, dude.

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Well I'm glad I gave you the opportunity to call me an uneducated fool. After all, you have always seemed to hold a grudge against me for whatever reason.
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Oh, I dont hate you or anything, just seems blatantly obvious that you seem to think your superior to everyone else. This isnt a recent thing, its been going on for years.

As for Social Darwinism, I KNOW what it is, and like I stated, it has nothing to do with Darwins theory on evolution and survival of the fittest. As i've said, the whole 'Darwin Awards' thing is just stupid, and makes no sense if your comparing it to true darwinism. And I know Darwins theory has nothing to do with athleticism, I pointed that out earlier. But Darwins theory points to the idea that it takes far more than brains for most species to survive. It has nothing to do with intelligence, some of the dumbest species in the world are also the hardiest. And that is why the whole Darwin Awards thing makes no sense.

[OneSickPsycho]

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Apoc

No, its not survival of the fittest. Darwinism is about survival of the most well adapted. Something with a thick heavy coat will survive better in cold climates than something without one, no matter how big and strong the animal without that thick fur may be, for example. Survival of the fittest is a term that in no way means what your saying it does. Its about genetic evolution and the ability to adapt to climate/conditions local to any certain species.

Like I said, you have no idea what 'Darwinism' actually is. Social Darwinism is a recent term that has nothing at all to do with the theory that Charles Darwin put forth. Its uneducated fools who used the term for something that actually has nothing to do with the concept in its original form.

One could make the argument that "well adapted" = "fittest" in the most strict definition of the term.

The "adaptation" in this case, or "thick heavy coat" to use your analogy, is intellectual ability; the lack thereof (what we modernly refer to as being a dumbass who is just taking up space and wasting oxygen) is the lack of adaptation to the needs of the environment (in this case, an environment containing high-rise buildings with a high floor balcony). To continue your analogy, the individual can be big and strong but lack that "big heavy coat" of intellectual ability lead to the environment winning the battle (i.e. he fell off the balcony because he was an idiot).

I did a position paper about this in college as a Biology major which was much better worded than the above, however, my head hurts so this is the best I can do right now.