gov't intervention, thats whats for lunch today

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

If we can tell welfare recipients where they can spend their checks why cant we tell parents what to pack in their kids' lunches so we're not wasting money educating future fat kids. Theyre accepting government money so the goverement owns them, right?

Rhetorical nonsense and you know it. There is a difference between dictating every minor behavior of a person who utilizes a government program and dictating the acceptable uses of government money. No one cries about Pell Grants being only applicable to university fees. But support restrictions on welfare money and all of a sudden I'm trying to own poor people? Sell that crap somewhere else.

That being said, I have less of a problem with the story if the school simply provides a lunch. Providing a whole other meal to a student who already has a meal is just a waste of money, not a violation of rights. Forcing the students to eat one thing or another is a different matter, and not apparently what happened in this case.

However, if they actually try to force the parents to pay for an arbitrarily-provided extra lunch when the parents have already provided a lunch, that crosses the line.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Rhetorical nonsense and you know it. There is a difference between dictating every minor behavior of a person who utilizes a government program and dictating the acceptable uses of government money. No one cries about Pell Grants being only applicable to university fees. But support restrictions on welfare money and all of a sudden I'm trying to own poor people? Sell that crap somewhere else.

That being said, I have less of a problem with the story if the school simply provides a lunch. Providing a whole other meal to a student who already has a meal is just a waste of money, not a violation of rights. Forcing the students to eat one thing or another is a different matter, and not apparently what happened in this case.

However, if they actually try to force the parents to pay for an arbitrarily-provided extra lunch when the parents have already provided a lunch, that crosses the line.

I'm still looking for more details but so far it just looks like an auditor saw the girl was missing a veggie and said "Here ya go sweetie"..gave her the school lunch. Kid saw chicken nuggets and like any child went straight for that, filled up on the nuggets and ignored the turkey sandwich. Expected behavior for any 4 year old.

Mom sounds like she took it personally, as if the school is saying she is an unfit mother. Flips out and starts raising hell.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

I'm still looking for more details but so far it just looks like an auditor saw the girl was missing a veggie and said "Here ya go sweetie"..gave her the school lunch. Kid saw chicken nuggets and like any child went straight for that, filled up on the nuggets and ignored the turkey sandwich. Expected behavior for any 4 year old.

Mom sounds like she took it personally, as if the school is saying she is an unfit mother. Flips out and starts raising hell.

Why is there an auditor looking through children's lunches?

Did the auditor's actions achieve the intended results?

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by shmike

Why is there an auditor looking through children's lunches?

Did the auditor's actions achieve the intended results?

Doh..meant to say assessor.
Its stated in the article I posted...the inspector was assessing the program.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Doh..meant to say assessor.
Its stated in the article I posted...the inspector was assessing the program.

That's fine if the inspector wants to assess the school lunches.

Why was she digging through a 4 year old's home-packed lunch?

[shmike]

The mother added,... I’ve even wrote a note to her teachers and said do not give my daughter anything else unless it comes out of her lunchbox and they are still going against me and putting a milk in front of her every day.

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[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by shmike

That's fine if the inspector wants to assess the school lunches.

Why was she digging through a 4 year old's home-packed lunch?

Digging or just walking around the lunchroom taking notes?

[shmike]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Digging or just walking around the lunchroom taking notes?

Does it matter?

[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Rhetorical nonsense and you know it. There is a difference between dictating every minor behavior of a person who utilizes a government program and dictating the acceptable uses of government money. No one cries about Pell Grants being only applicable to university fees. But support restrictions on welfare money and all of a sudden I'm trying to own poor people? Sell that crap somewhere else.

That being said, I have less of a problem with the story if the school simply provides a lunch. Providing a whole other meal to a student who already has a meal is just a waste of money, not a violation of rights. Forcing the students to eat one thing or another is a different matter, and not apparently what happened in this case.

However, if they actually try to force the parents to pay for an arbitrarily-provided extra lunch when the parents have already provided a lunch, that crosses the line.

Whenever welfare comes up theres a common theme that these people are using "my" money and therefore should follow my rules. Nobody has a problem with the government intervening to decide where the recipients spend their money. This is obviously a different situation but its still an instance of the government making rules that only apply to patrons of a particular government sponsored program.

Im just speculating but Ill bet that at some point a study showed that the children most likely to participate in this type of free preschool program are also the most at risk for obesity or other diet related diseases so they decided to add dietary requirements for everyone that participates. Thats a lot like what happened in Florida when they decided that all welfare recipients must take a drug test to get benefits.