Republican says something stupid...

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

The design is a result of UAW demands on HOW they can assemble the car.

I'm going to go out on a limb and speak from a position of ignorance (I'm pretty good at that you know)

In any mass produced design, don't you have to take into account the manufacturing process? So if you design something and the folks who will do the actual assembly come up to you and say "Aint gonna happen in this plant with these tools" wouldn't it be a good idea rethink the design?
Designing an elegant solution doesn't amount to much if its going to be a pain in the ass to manufacturer (hence cost more to build).

I worked in manufacturing for 7 years but that was back in the 90's.
Before online porn changed everything

[Smittie61984]

The way the a UAW worker assembles a car vs a non-union worker for Kia, Toyota, and even BMW is much different.

GM can't go by the same standards as foreign car manufactures do because of union demands. Basically engineer designs process, process is put into practice and as expected changes need to be done, ground engineers say this is what needs to be done but while that happens you have a UAW representative standing there usually saying "We're not doing that" without even looking at a single blueprint or concept. Seen it happen first hand and why American car manufactures are doomed to fail. Then put this arrogent prick back in office and unions will know they run the auto-industry. Oh, and don't think the UAW will be gunning to unionize the foreign car companies if President Obama is reelected.

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Oh, and don't think the UAW will be gunning to unionize the foreign car companies if President Obama is reelected.

The UAW has been doing that for as long as there have been foreign car companies manufacturing in the States. They gunned for unionization under President Bush, they gunned for unionization during President Obama's first term, and they'll continue to gun for unionization even if Romney is elected.

I have no idea how a President Romney would react to UAW unionization efforts. But I have a pretty good idea of how Governor Romney of Massachussetts would react...

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

The UAW has been doing that for as long as there have been foreign car companies manufacturing in the States. They gunned for unionization under President Bush, they gunned for unionization during President Obama's first term, and they'll continue to gun for unionization even if Romney is elected.

Mandatory Card Check would be a huge start. Let the Unions who have a long history of thug tactics that would make the KKK jealous get a sheet stating where every person stands. I'd sign it if I had union thugs... representatives coming to my home and asking me to vote yes on forming a union. Which would coincide with the dismanteling of "right to work" (I hate that name) so that an employer can't fire someone for voting yes.

Obama bought off the unions this go round by changing bankruptcy laws for his own liking. That proved to the unions that hte president is in their pocket. Now that they know Card Check will be next on the list.

[defector]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Which would coincide with the dismanteling of "right to work" (I hate that name) so that an employer can't fire someone for voting yes.

I believe the new term is "at will employment". At least it is here.

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by defector

I believe the new term is "at will employment". At least it is here.

Still don't like it. I feel it implies that the employee has a right to a job. Such as you get employment at will. Not that hte owner of the company has the right to exercise his actual right to be free in their belongings including their company and they can fire you from their company for whatever reason.

Oh, by the way, I do not believe unions should be banned. It should be between the company and their employees if they want to form a union or if the company is going to allow a union. The government's only role is to enforce the contract that they both agree to.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

I'm going to go out on a limb and speak from a position of ignorance (I'm pretty good at that you know)

In any mass produced design, don't you have to take into account the manufacturing process? So if you design something and the folks who will do the actual assembly come up to you and say "Aint gonna happen in this plant with these tools" wouldn't it be a good idea rethink the design?
Designing an elegant solution doesn't amount to much if its going to be a pain in the ass to manufacturer (hence cost more to build).

I worked in manufacturing for 7 years but that was back in the 90's.
Before online porn changed everything

Why would they start taking that into account now? It's not like they considered that someone with hands bigger than a 3 year old would ever have to change a headlight bulb.