Does the influx of new riders worry you?

Sixxxxer · 07-29-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WildKat

damned if you do and damned if you don't I guess :dunno:

the amount of scooters has exploded so much you almost can't even find them in dealerships because they are gone almost as soon as they come in. atleast with anything over 50cc you need to get a motorcycle license so that atleast helps steer them in the right direction to study and learn their craft somewhat I suppose...

The License thing is True BUT...In jersey they'll sell you a Bike off the floor even if you dont have a Motorcycle License, You just cant ride it out of the dealer...So people do they next best thing, Load it into a pickup and take it home...Then you can do whatever you want with it.

Not everyone is Gonna be legal on the Road.

rider76 · 07-29-2008, 08:02 PM

I havent noticed an increase in Motorcycles around here, But the gay ass scooter craze has exploded...I realized salesman dont give a fuck as to who buys one as long as the check clears, but I see way to many 300lb guys on 100cc scooters

marko138 · 07-29-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

The License thing is True BUT...In jersey they'll sell you a Bike off the floor even if you dont have a Motorcycle License, You just cant ride it out of the dealer...So people do they next best thing, Load it into a pickup and take it home...Then you can do whatever you want with it.

Not everyone is Gonna be legal on the Road.

You don't have to have a license to purchase any automobile in PA either. As long as you have the cash and proof of insurance it's yours.

rider76 · 07-29-2008, 08:07 PM

One of my troops went to a dealer, got a loan and rode it out of the parking lot without a motorcycle endorsement on his license. dealer doesnt care they got there money...

Cutty72 · 07-29-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rider76

One of my troops went to a dealer, got a loan and rode it out of the parking lot without a motorcycle endorsement on his license. dealer doesnt care they got there money...

guessing his ass was grass when you found out?

rider76 · 07-30-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

guessing his ass was grass when you found out?

Yep, went back to the dealer with him to exchange the Busa for something more reasonable. He was under a direct order from the base commander not to ride it till he took and passed a safety course. He did and is now on his way to becoming a decent rider..

WildKat · 07-30-2008, 10:02 PM

Around here we have several fairly big riding clubs geared mostly toward SB riders...they all ride Gixxers, Ninja's, Busa's, R1's etc...and it's funny, not a one of them ever does anything besides go to the track and work on the 1/4 mile times. You can always tell the riding club guys because they have a nice big flat spot in the middle of their rear tire from all the burnouts and they all have atleast 3 inches of chicken strips on their tires. The kids around here look up to these guys and they ( the clubs) are the ones speeding, doing wheelies in the streets, weaving in and out of traffic and what not. ugh, what a way to send the wrong message to new riders...

Cutty72 · 07-31-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rider76

Yep, went back to the dealer with him to exchange the Busa for something more reasonable. He was under a direct order from the base commander not to ride it till he took and passed a safety course. He did and is now on his way to becoming a decent rider..

Yeah, I know the military standards/regs and yeah no license is a BIG no no.

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Originally Posted by WildKat

Around here we have several fairly big riding clubs geared mostly toward SB riders...they all ride Gixxers, Ninja's, Busa's, R1's etc...and it's funny, not a one of them ever does anything besides go to the track and work on the 1/4 mile times. You can always tell the riding club guys because they have a nice big flat spot in the middle of their rear tire from all the burnouts and they all have atleast 3 inches of chicken strips on their tires. The kids around here look up to these guys and they ( the clubs) are the ones speeding, doing wheelies in the streets, weaving in and out of traffic and what not. ugh, what a way to send the wrong message to new riders...

Yeah, ran into a guy in the MP unit here that's like that. Drags an R1 and thinks it's the shit. Asked him if he ever did road course racing. He tried once at the same track I ran earlier this year, ran one lap and got scared.
Guess that tells ya something.

Dave · 07-30-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

The License thing is True BUT...In jersey they'll sell you a Bike off the floor even if you dont have a Motorcycle License, You just cant ride it out of the dealer...So people do they next best thing, Load it into a pickup and take it home...Then you can do whatever you want with it.

Not everyone is Gonna be legal on the Road.

turns out powersports doesnt check :P

nhgunnut · 07-30-2008, 07:41 AM

There is a nice bit of irony here. I remember in about 1967 or 68 my dad and one of his friends (cruiser guys both one Indian one Harley) were talking about how putting electric starters on bikes was going to result in a bunh of people who should never be on a motorcyles getting one and how it would ruin riding for everyone.
I think stasticly 10% of the new riders will be idiots some of those will learn from their mistakes others will leave riding or become subjects of the Darwinian process. (here in New Hampshire we don't have helmet laws, and we print "Live free or die" on our liscense plates. So we will clrealy assist you with either)
I think in the long run more riders mean a larger collective voice and more diverse and competitve marketplace so in the long run better for all of us. In the short run I will be emabarrassed by stupid people doing stupid things in a sport I have a passion for.

07-30-2008, 10:02 PM	#7
WildKat It was better in the 80's Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central PA Moto: 2000 Kat 750 Posts: 80	Around here we have several fairly big riding clubs geared mostly toward SB riders...they all ride Gixxers, Ninja's, Busa's, R1's etc...and it's funny, not a one of them ever does anything besides go to the track and work on the 1/4 mile times. You can always tell the riding club guys because they have a nice big flat spot in the middle of their rear tire from all the burnouts and they all have atleast 3 inches of chicken strips on their tires. The kids around here look up to these guys and they ( the clubs) are the ones speeding, doing wheelies in the streets, weaving in and out of traffic and what not. ugh, what a way to send the wrong message to new riders... __________________ *Don't worry I won't tell, but you just got passed by a Kat!*

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07-29-2008, 08:02 PM	#2
rider76 Canyon Carver Join Date: May 2008 Location: St Louis Moto: looking for the next ride Posts: 448	I havent noticed an increase in Motorcycles around here, But the gay ass scooter craze has exploded...I realized salesman dont give a fuck as to who buys one as long as the check clears, but I see way to many 300lb guys on 100cc scooters

07-29-2008, 08:07 PM	#4
rider76 Canyon Carver Join Date: May 2008 Location: St Louis Moto: looking for the next ride Posts: 448	One of my troops went to a dealer, got a loan and rode it out of the parking lot without a motorcycle endorsement on his license. dealer doesnt care they got there money...

07-30-2008, 07:41 AM	#10
nhgunnut gun totin redneck Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South West New Hampshire Moto: turbo busa 999 Duc Goldwing & Victory Posts: 1,130	There is a nice bit of irony here. I remember in about 1967 or 68 my dad and one of his friends (cruiser guys both one Indian one Harley) were talking about how putting electric starters on bikes was going to result in a bunh of people who should never be on a motorcyles getting one and how it would ruin riding for everyone. I think stasticly 10% of the new riders will be idiots some of those will learn from their mistakes others will leave riding or become subjects of the Darwinian process. (here in New Hampshire we don't have helmet laws, and we print "Live free or die" on our liscense plates. So we will clrealy assist you with either) I think in the long run more riders mean a larger collective voice and more diverse and competitve marketplace so in the long run better for all of us. In the short run I will be emabarrassed by stupid people doing stupid things in a sport I have a passion for.