08 CBR 1k

[Gunther1000]

My 2001 was the exact same (rich, Black tip) and I had a slip on and filter for years! It would puff black from day one. I bought it off the showroom with 0 miles and I think the earlier modeles were funny in the fueling. You dont need to buy A $300 PC get someone with a Yosh box or other tool to burn you a new mad to the ECU. its a lot cheaper and many tuners have them.

Now as for you....

"Rossi can ride a bike to its limits, Mladin, Spies, they can all do it.

Any asshole can abuse a bike. Intentionally abusing a bike is NOT riding it to any limit. Its abuse. Pure and simple.

Riding a bike to its limits is not abusing it, simply using it for its intended creation. "

You must be on crack to think these guys are not beating the piss out of those bikes... And no its not "OK" the way they ride them. And you would be surprized how FEW parts your bike shares with theres. You think they just roll a few off the showroom floor and say "hey guys lets go race these shiny new bikes!" um.... no. Test tune test some more redesign test test break redesign... Ah ha! that works, Now how can we make it for 300,000 people to buy. I know lets make it slightly cheaper... but still reliable for the piss ant squids... This is the part that impresses me.

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

as far as i kow its always puffed a little black smoke and has always had the soot residue on the pipe but when someone said it seemed like it was burning oil it got me motivated to really get rid of this thing before it blows up

[Gunther1000]

Originally Posted by Vettezilla (Impala Balko)

as far as i kow its always puffed a little black smoke and has always had the soot residue on the pipe but when someone said it seemed like it was burning oil it got me motivated to really get rid of this thing before it blows up

How did you suck all the oil out of the filter? Cause if there was only .25 of a quart short on your change.... Your not burning oil. In fact if your not having to add oil your fine.

Please don't rush out on a whime to sell this bike for pennys on the dollar just to "get rid" of it. I believe your going to be ok... Even if in the far away chance you do need some head work WHICH I DONT THINK YOU WILL.

Map it or just ride it please... I beg of you.

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

Originally Posted by Gunther1000

How did you suck all the oil out of the filter? Cause if there was only .25 of a quart short on your change.... Your not burning oil. In fact if your not having to add oil your fine.

Please don't rush out on a whime to sell this bike for pennys on the dollar just to "get rid" of it. I believe your going to be ok... Even if in the far away chance you do need some head work WHICH I DONT THINK YOU WILL.

Map it or just ride it please... I beg of you.

thats not why i think it... it was coming to the time to do an oil change and i was checking the fluids like i always do and the levels were in between low and full which is close to a .25 quart. I have my eye on the oil on this bike every time its not running now.

[the chi]

Gunther, we are going to have to just let it go. You arent seeing what I am saying and only taking from it what you want to pick at apparently because you are bored and like to argue. Do your thing. Like I said, I dont care what you do nor did i call you "that stunter guy" or whatnot, you name and classify yourself all on your own.

NtS, love the pegasus picture, very cute, altho your use of bunnies frightens me...

Originally Posted by Gunther1000

How did you suck all the oil out of the filter? Cause if there was only .25 of a quart short on your change.... Your not burning oil. In fact if your not having to add oil your fine.

Please don't rush out on a whime to sell this bike for pennys on the dollar just to "get rid" of it. I believe your going to be ok... Even if in the far away chance you do need some head work WHICH I DONT THINK YOU WILL.

Map it or just ride it please... I beg of you.

I gotta agree with "stunter man" on this one. He's right. I checked with my buddy, The Stig, a sometimes poster here and my bike idol/guru person:

Black tip and a bit of smoke = likely running too rich, worst case scenario the valve guides may be worn causing the problems you are having. Fill your oil up, keep an eye on it and determine if you are actually going thru it and having to refill. As long as you arent having actual mechanical or electrical issues, you should be able to take care of this with a minimum of effort and cost.

Now, if ya wanna sell, lemme know, I need a track bike... J/k

[Gunther1000]

I suck.... You rock RAE and guy with the 750.... Yup you better sell that Hand Gernade! Its about to blow...

[Trip]

wow, just wow....

I haven't really heard of stand up issues from the I4s as far as wheeling them til they pop. The twins especially SV is very prone to that and a member of this forum has done it. If I remember correct R1upon1 wheelied his SV to death. Those motors are bulletproof otherwise.

[Dnyce]

750's are supposed to have the valves checked/adjusted at 15k-nothin to do with your oil really, just a heads up.

your bike sounds rich-although with a k&n filter and a slip on, seems it should have gotten leaner, not richer. did u check the plugs? you say u dont have a pc, how bout u tune it with the plugs, old skool. mite wana try a hotter or colder plug, more or less gap. cant really tell ya without seeing the ones u got in there. hell, u mite just need new plugs, when the last time u changed em?

why is bouncin a street bike off the rev limiter bad? the whole point of a rev limiter is to prevent the engine from revving hi enough to cause the valves to float and possibly slap the pistons.


assuming u bought a kit, why in the fuck did it take 30-40 full pulls on a dyno to tune your turbo? were u constantly changing shit, searching for more power?

when it comes to the engine-abuse, ridin it to its limit=same thing. whether you're flying down the front straight shiftin at redline, or redlinin it thru the gears doin a wheelie, the engine only knows its at 14k, or whatever your redline is.

i4 engines sound nasty when they are oil starved. they scream. literally. its not a unnoticed sound.


that being said, the front end on the new rr's=ugly. ugly in pics, ugly in person, ugly at the track(u dont notice it cuz its got no lights in track gear, so it only tolerable) and ugly on the street. the rest of it looks sweet tho. short tail makes it looked stretched. i love that about it.

cant beat the r1 nose in looks dept, but 848/1098, and daytona 675 come damn close.

go demo one-U like it, U buy it. who gives a fuck what we think anyway lol


if u really are burning oil, it could easily be from starting it up cold and riding off cold everyday. 11k miles of doin that mite cause u to burn alil oil eventually.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Gunther1000

My 2001 was the exact same (rich, Black tip) and I had a slip on and filter for years! It would puff black from day one. I bought it off the showroom with 0 miles and I think the earlier modeles were funny in the fueling. You dont need to buy A $300 PC get someone with a Yosh box or other tool to burn you a new mad to the ECU. its a lot cheaper and many tuners have them.

Now as for you....

"Rossi can ride a bike to its limits, Mladin, Spies, they can all do it.

Any asshole can abuse a bike. Intentionally abusing a bike is NOT riding it to any limit. Its abuse. Pure and simple.

Riding a bike to its limits is not abusing it, simply using it for its intended creation. "

You must be on crack to thing these guys are not beating the piss out of those bikes... And no its not "OK" the way they ride them. Any you would be surprized how FEW parts your bike shares with theres. You think they just roll a few off the showroom floor and say "hey guys lets go race these shiny new bikes!" um.... no. Test tune test some more redesign test test break redesign... Ah ha! that works, Now how can we make it for 300,000 people to buy. I know lets make it slightly cheaper... but still reliable for the piss ant squids...

Ya know, before you argue with me, you should maybe get to know me. You must be new if you think I dont know this shit.

I am fully aware that those bikes share VERY little in common with a bike straight off the showroom floor. Jesus christ, what self respecting race follower and track rider DOESNT??!!

Heres an amusing tidbit, when Team Jordan requested some of these "special" parts, Mike Jordan was informed he didnt have the MONEY to purchase this stuff.

So yeah, not stock bikes, OMG for real? They're racing jacked up superbikes??!! Are you serious??!! Here i was thinking they had one just like me...

However, their bikes are made to be ridden as hard as they ride them AND they have the skills to take a showroom floor bike and ride it to the limit. A good WERA or CCS racer can most likely do the same. But you? I? Joe Blow from off the street? No. Not in a hundred years.

And riding a bike the way it was designed is not abuse. Race bikes and street bikes have TONS more potential than any street rider will ever be able to use. I dont know where you are getting that from...

Stoppies, wheelies, stunting in general? Thats not what the bikes were designed for. A stunt bike, yes, its been modded to be that way. A regular run of the mill, stock bike, no. You cant even argue that stunting is what Honda or Suzuki or Yamaha had in mind when they designed these bikes.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

Originally Posted by Rae

Ya know, before you argue with me, you should maybe get to know me. You must be new if you think I dont know this shit.

I am fully aware that those bikes share VERY little in common with a bike straight off the showroom floor. Jesus christ, what self respecting race follower and track rider DOESNT??!!

Heres an amusing tidbit, when Team Jordan requested some of these "special" parts, Mike Jordan was informed he didnt have the MONEY to purchase this stuff.

So yeah, not stock bikes, OMG for real? They're racing jacked up superbikes??!! Are you serious??!! Here i was thinking they had one just like me...

However, their bikes are made to be ridden as hard as they ride them AND they have the skills to take a showroom floor bike and ride it to the limit. A good WERA or CCS racer can most likely do the same. But you? I? Joe Blow from off the street? No. Not in a hundred years.

And riding a bike the way it was designed is not abuse. Race bikes and street bikes have TONS more potential than any street rider will ever be able to use. I dont know where you are getting that from...

Stoppies, wheelies, stunting in general? Thats not what the bikes were designed for. A stunt bike, yes, its been modded to be that way. A regular run of the mill, stock bike, no. You cant even argue that stunting is what Honda or Suzuki or Yamaha had in mind when they designed these bikes.

lol, the only parts required to "mod" a stunt bike are rashed plastics, a dinner plate sprocket, and a crash cage. boom, done. anything you add to a stunt bike only DECREASES its rideability.