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Old 08-21-2008, 06:08 PM   #1
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Did you guys watch the races? I doubt his crank was the reason he pulled such a stupid gap on everyone. He's been spanking ass for most of the past decade!
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:21 PM   #2
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naw I didn't see the race... so I don't know how it went... just wondered...

but regardless if the Crank made the diffrence or not... it wasn't in spec with the rules which are black and white... it must be factory. so he cheated... known to him or not... the rules say the rider is responsible for his motorcycle.
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Old 08-21-2008, 09:44 PM   #3
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Did you guys watch the races? I doubt his crank was the reason he pulled such a stupid gap on everyone. He's been spanking ass for most of the past decade!
No shit! I mean really,what kind of "power" can you expect? Besides,they probably illegally balanced it using lead or whatever. It's not a horse power item, per se'. It's still stupid on their parts but there's at least one of these scandals every year. Honda got hit last year in the 600 class,if I'm not mistaken. Heck,remember when Rossi got spanked for cleaning the dirt from his starting position in Qatar?

Besides,I doubt that we've heard the last of this. I'm sure they will file a protest with the AMA.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:14 PM   #4
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No shit! I mean really,what kind of "power" can you expect? Besides,they probably illegally balanced it using lead or whatever. It's not a horse power item, per se'. It's still stupid on their parts but there's at least one of these scandals every year. Honda got hit last year in the 600 class,if I'm not mistaken. Heck,remember when Rossi got spanked for cleaning the dirt from his starting position in Qatar?

Besides,I doubt that we've heard the last of this. I'm sure they will file a protest with the AMA.
BS! a lightened and balanced crank would free up a couple ponies and allow for quicker acceleration since the engine wouldnt have to work so hard to spin it
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:54 AM   #5
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BS! a lightened and balanced crank would free up a couple ponies and allow for quicker acceleration since the engine wouldnt have to work so hard to spin it
I didn't say there would be zero hp gains... I don't think it would account for these 15-30 sec leads that MM & BS have enjoyed all season. Besides,most of the factory bikes on the grid couldn't pass that inspection. Every time they do one they find something regardless of brand.

The Yamaha limited edition came with a balanced shaft so they are allowed to work on it more per the rules. Also,the MV and High end Ducati come with heavy metal balanced cranks so they too are allowed to modify them further. I wish Suzuki would do a limited edition $30,000 bike to race WSBK and AMA.

To be honest,I don't see why they would knowingly "cheat" this way. It really doesn't give you that much of an advantage and they certainly don't need anymore hp or acceleration. They have a hard enough time putting the power to the ground in a controllable manner!
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:01 AM   #6
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I didn't say there would be zero hp gains... I don't think it would account for these 15-30 sec leads that MM & BS have enjoyed all season. Besides,most of the factory bikes on the grid couldn't pass that inspection. Every time they do one they find something regardless of brand.

The Yamaha limited edition came with a balanced shaft so they are allowed to work on it more per the rules. Also,the MV and High end Ducati come with heavy metal balanced cranks so they too are allowed to modify them further. I wish Suzuki would do a limited edition $30,000 bike to race WSBK and AMA.

To be honest,I don't see why they would knowingly "cheat" this way. It really doesn't give you that much of an advantage and they certainly don't need anymore hp or acceleration. They have a hard enough time putting the power to the ground in a controllable manner!
gotcha, from previous arguments on this site i didnt think you would be unaware of the advantages there but that first post made me unsure enough to speak up lol
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:09 AM   #7
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I can almost guarantee that Spies and Hayden were using the same crank. The other question is... have they been using it all season long... maybe even the past few seasons? If this was the first use of the "illegal" crank, it didn't make much of a difference because the Suzuki guys have been beating the shit out of everyone the entire season by large margins of victory.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:01 AM   #8
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I was at the races and have already stated here that his bike "sounded different" than the other bikes out there so this does not surprise me at all.

I didn't actually compare his bike one on one against Spies or Haydens bikes but just remember Mladin sounding different when he would fly by. Another guy at our table brought it up first and we would listen for it when he would come by.
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:41 AM   #9
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I would hope they would be checking Spies bike as well. Don't bother checking Tommy's, you know he's the red headed stepchild of the team anyway, he doesn't get the good parts.

I'm sure it has to do more with changing rules and foggy rulebooks than it does with anyone trying to cheat.

I suppose it doesn't matter anyway, AMA racing is doing its swan dive of a dramatic death....

Lookin forward to watchin cousin bubba race on the "Team Bob's Backyard BBQ This Saturday At Eight, BYOB" Suzuki racing team
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