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[z06boy]

Originally Posted by Trip

Because you are a pussy to ride a reliable cheap japanese bike.

Yeah really !!

Originally Posted by Dave

styling and performance.

#1 its a higher spec of vette but its still a vette and looks enough like regular ones that non enthusiasts arent gonna be impressed.

#2 90% of the folks buying them will never access those limits. now thats not usually a huge deal, hell bikes are a great example of that. however, the way chevy built that power is THE SAME EXACT WAY YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE MODDING THE CAR AFTERMARKET! as the oem (and especially one asking so much for the product) they should have added power in a way we cant. be it an lsx based v12 or some exotic unobtanium technology. to my mind theres no reason to buy the fucker and almost no reason to build it

Well we each have an opinion and I'd say you're wrong about "no reason to buy the fucker and almost no reason to build it"...they will sell ALL of them.

I'm not interested in one...too much $$ BUT I bet they will have NO problem selling them especially since they are being built in limited supply.

[smileyman]

Really the appeal of special ed (sorry had to)vettes are no different from the Shelby Cobra GT500, the Saleen Mustang, or for that matter the Special edition Yammie R1 which came out modded with Ohlins suspension or the R7. They are limited edition bought it fast and moddified specials that will have a appeal to a certain niche of enthusiast. Performance numbers and how it ranks against it's competition (or even the regular model) doesn't really apply.

You could buy a base Mustang GT and with between $6-8000 mod it to GT 500 spec but in the end you just have a modded GT. But the Shelby GT500 badge and title mean something else all together (IMHO you spent too much). Not my cuppa I am way biased to function over form and as cheap as I can get by, but some folks (alot of them) see it different...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Really the appeal of special ed (sorry had to)vettes are no different from the Shelby Cobra GT500, the Saleen Mustang, or for that matter the Special edition Yammie R1 which came out modded with Ohlins suspension or the R7. They are limited edition bought it fast and moddified specials that will have a appeal to a certain niche of enthusiast. Performance numbers and how it ranks against it's competition (or even the regular model) doesn't really apply.

You could buy a base Mustang GT and with between $6-8000 mod it to GT 500 spec but in the end you just have a modded GT. But the Shelby GT500 badge and title mean something else all together (IMHO you spent too much). Not my cuppa I am way biased to function over form and as cheap as I can get by, but some folks (alot of them) see it different...

all im saying is for that bread the factory needs to do something besides slap on off the shelf parts. the eighties ZR1 cost almost double the base vette but at least you got the engineered by lotus dohc LT5 to show for it.

and z06boy, im sure you are right. im sure they will sell every one of em. if people are willing to drop eighty grand on a 40k dodge challenger im sure they'll be just fine. they just could have done so much more. hell. hows about a flat planed crank to make that sucker scream? oh wait i forgot its a legacy v8 vehicle (even though it started life as a six) and the old guys wouldnt be able to accept it if it wailed instead of rumbled. gay

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by Dave

and z06boy, im sure you are right. im sure they will sell every one of em. if people are willing to drop eighty grand on a 40k dodge challenger im sure they'll be just fine. they just could have done so much more. hell. hows about a flat planed crank to make that sucker scream? oh wait i forgot its a legacy v8 vehicle (even though it started life as a six) and the old guys wouldnt be able to accept it if it wailed instead of rumbled. gay

I don't call it gay...I call it...to each their own. All I was sayng is that it wasn't a waste to build...the car is a badazz...but I agree...cost too much.

I won't be buying one...can't afford it but yes I'd rock it in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by smileyman

Really the appeal of special ed (sorry had to)vettes are no different from the Shelby Cobra GT500, the Saleen Mustang, or for that matter the Special edition Yammie R1 which came out modded with Ohlins suspension or the R7. They are limited edition bought it fast and moddified specials that will have a appeal to a certain niche of enthusiast. Performance numbers and how it ranks against it's competition (or even the regular model) doesn't really apply.

You could buy a base Mustang GT and with between $6-8000 mod it to GT 500 spec but in the end you just have a modded GT. But the Shelby GT500 badge and title mean something else all together (IMHO you spent too much). Not my cuppa I am way biased to function over form and as cheap as I can get by, but some folks (alot of them) see it different...

Exactly right imho.

That's why I bought a completely stock C5 Z06 sitting in a guys garage back in 2002 with 9k miles on it...at a good price. Every mod the car now has...blower...cam...intake...full exhaust...rear gears...clutch...lightened flywheel...shifter...lowered...etc...came AFTER I bought it.

I couldn't afford to buy a Lingenfelter model so I bought parts here and there and ended up with about the same thing and love it....BUT at the end of the day no...it's not an actual Lingenfelter model...but I have a lot less $$ in it for basically the same thing.

My supercharger...boost gauge and longtube headers were taken off of a Z06 at Lingenfelter and shipped to me. The rich guy that owned it decided it wasn't fast enough so he had them take it out and send it to me and went to a 427 TT.

*edit* My reference to "the rich guy" is based on the fact that he also had a Ferrari and a huge house in Chicago and $$ seemed to be no issue with him. He gave me a great deal on the supercharger.

[JoJoYZF]

Originally Posted by z06boy

I don't call it gay...I call it...to each their own. All I was sayng is that it wasn't a waste to build...the car is a badazz...but I agree...cost too much.

I won't be buying one...can't afford it but yes I'd rock it in a heartbeat.





Exactly right imho.

That's why I bought a completely stock C5 Z06 sitting in a guys garage back in 2002 with 9k miles on it...at a good price. Every mod the car now has...blower...cam...intake...full exhaust...rear gears...clutch...lightened flywheel...shifter...lowered...etc...came AFTER I bought it.

I couldn't afford to buy a Lingenfelter model so I bought parts here and there and ended up with about the same thing and love it....BUT at the end of the day no...it's not an actual Lingenfelter model...but I have a lot less $$ in it for basically the same thing.

My supercharger...boost gauge and longtube headers were taken off of a Z06 at Lingenfelter and shipped to me. The rich guy that owned it decided it wasn't fast enough so he had them take it out and send it to me and went to a 427 TT.

*edit* My reference to "the rich guy" is based on the fact that he also had a Ferrari and a huge house in Chicago and $$ seemed to be no issue with him. He gave me a great deal on the supercharger.

Thats awesome man. Do you do your own work on it or take it to a shop? I knew it was modded but I never knew what all was done to it. Thats a pretty bad ass set up. Any pics of te engine bay and such?

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by JoJoYZF

Thats awesome man. Do you do your own work on it or take it to a shop? I knew it was modded but I never knew what all was done to it. Thats a pretty bad ass set up. Any pics of te engine bay and such?

Thanks. I do the bolt on basic stuff like the intake and some of the exhaust...a friend helped me with the stuff like lowering...adding the headers and boost gauge and things like that but another guy that I know put in the cam...rear gear...clutch/flywheel and dyno tuned it.

It's not a race car...plenty of cars around putting out bigger #'s but it sure is a fun car and since 2002 and about 44k miles very reliable. It's good for about 500 rwhp and close to that in tq. It weighs a little over 3000 lbs which isn't bad.

[smileyman]

Lord Vader, your Vette is ready!

[JoJoYZF]

Originally Posted by z06boy

Thanks. I do the bolt on basic stuff like the intake and some of the exhaust...a friend helped me with the stuff like lowering...adding the headers and boost gauge and things like that but another guy that I know put in the cam...rear gear...clutch/flywheel and dyno tuned it.

It's not a race car...plenty of cars around putting out bigger #'s but it sure is a fun car and since 2002 and about 44k miles very reliable. It's good for about 500 rwhp and close to that in tq. It weighs a little over 3000 lbs which isn't bad.

That car is badass man. Id love to have a built and blacked out c5 z06 or terminator cobra. Very very nice.