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Old 03-04-2008, 08:17 AM   #1
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Because I'm 6,000+ miles away from her. I get back in three weeks and she'll want to get the bike ASAp, probably. What's a hackle? She's taken the MSF course twice and already had the "M" endorsement. The only bikes she's rode were at MSF and a 250 she was test riding for about 5 minutes. You rstory about your best friend is inspiring though. I know she can do it. I just don't want her confusing other riders on the track because she's not familiar with track riding yet. At the same time, people in Vegas can't drive for SHIT! Don't want her getting clipped by some dumb fuck, you know?
I get it.

A hackle is what happens to a cat when it sees something it doesn't like... many women do it when they feel challenged. They go on the defensive, then there isn't anything you can tell them on the planet that will change their mind... maybe buy them new shoes at that point...

Any trackday company worth their salt will recognize the help she needs and give it to her. That goes for any new rider, male or female. Most of those can be spotted in the pit area, and REALLY on the round-robins... the death grip, the elbows, hell... you can even see them holding their breath.

The track isn't about speed, it's about control. And, I can't think of a better place for someone to learn about riding at speed. If anything it will get her more comfortable with the bike, the balance, how it maneuvers, etc.

The track isn't more dangerous... it's more expensive.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:24 AM   #2
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I get it.

A hackle is what happens to a cat when it sees something it doesn't like... many women do it when they feel challenged. They go on the defensive, then there isn't anything you can tell them on the planet that will change their mind... maybe buy them new shoes at that point...

Any trackday company worth their salt will recognize the help she needs and give it to her. That goes for any new rider, male or female. Most of those can be spotted in the pit area, and REALLY on the round-robins... the death grip, the elbows, hell... you can even see them holding their breath.

The track isn't about speed, it's about control. And, I can't think of a better place for someone to learn about riding at speed. If anything it will get her more comfortable with the bike, the balance, how it maneuvers, etc.

The track isn't more dangerous... it's more expensive.
I've seen many hackles then. I've been telling her it's not about speed. I put down 1:30's and my buddy is still in the 2:10's. I told her she can follow him. He's done quite a few track days. I just gotta make sure I'm not too anal, for lack of a better term. She doesn't need me in her ear all day, when the TD host is telling her the same thing. It'll be cool as hell to see her out there though. I'm smiling about it already.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:26 AM   #3
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I would let her decide, if she thought she was comfortable enough to ride on street than you should let her. If not throw her into N, the track marshalls will keep her safe. I would at least find somewhere deserted to practice a little before though. Do ya'll not have some high school parking lots around there that would be empty in the evening to use?
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I would let her decide, if she thought she was comfortable enough to ride on street than you should let her. If not throw her into N, the track marshalls will keep her safe. I would at least find somewhere deserted to practice a little before though. Do ya'll not have some high school parking lots around there that would be empty in the evening to use?
That's what I want to happen. Hit up some vacant lots or neighborhoods and get some practice in. About letting her decide. She doesn't know what to expect on the streets. She's not on the local forum reading about all these deaths (two between Friday and today. Two in the same day when I was riding to work one day). I'm pretty sure, with the help of some friends, we can convince her to go the track route. It's just WAYYYYY safer. And if a wreck does happen, there's no chance of getting run over by a truck once she gets off.
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That's what I want to happen. Hit up some vacant lots or neighborhoods and get some practice in. About letting her decide. She doesn't know what to expect on the streets. She's not on the local forum reading about all these deaths (two between Friday and today. Two in the same day when I was riding to work one day). I'm pretty sure, with the help of some friends, we can convince her to go the track route. It's just WAYYYYY safer. And if a wreck does happen, there's no chance of getting run over by a truck once she gets off.
Seriously, you put yourself out there in the same crap. She could die tomorrow from getting shot by a nutjob in the grocery store. Sometimes you got to let go and live life and not worry about the rest of that crap. Bad shit happens everyday and you keeping her off of streets isn't going to keep here around any longer. I am a stronger believer in when it's your time to die, your going to die.
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I think she'll be alright. It's gonna be more about her than the others on the track...you know how it works out there. Just make sure she's comfortable on teh bike at reasonable speed and I think she'll be fine.
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Seriously, you put yourself out there in the same crap. She could die tomorrow from getting shot by a nutjob in the grocery store. Sometimes you got to let go and live life and not worry about the rest of that crap. Bad shit happens everyday and you keeping her off of streets isn't going to keep here around any longer. I am a stronger believer in when it's your time to die, your going to die.
I don't ride street anymore. I hear what you're saying, but you don't know how people drive in Vegas. Half the people are drunk and it's not uncommon to see at least one guy blow a stop sign or red light on the way to/from work. IT'S BAD!! I don't exagerate either. The track's the best way to go. We'll register it in case we want to go somewhere together or in a group, but that won't be often.
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I don't ride street anymore. I hear what you're saying, but you don't know how people drive in Vegas. Half the people are drunk and it's not uncommon to see at least one guy blow a stop sign or red light on the way to/from work. IT'S BAD!! I don't exagerate either. The track's the best way to go. We'll register it in case we want to go somewhere together or in a group, but that won't be often.
If you no longer ride street anymore, that makes much more sense. You should take her on some of those rural roads you guys ride though. I could never give up the street entirely. I enjoy riding too much.
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If you no longer ride street anymore, that makes much more sense. You should take her on some of those rural roads you guys ride though. I could never give up the street entirely. I enjoy riding too much.
I love riding anywhere too, especially the twisties out here and in SoCal! But I have a shitload of fun at the track. I'm not selling my street plastics, if you know what I mean. Just won't ride on the street unless I'm too broke to hit up a track day, and that's still a maybe.
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That's what I want to happen. Hit up some vacant lots or neighborhoods and get some practice in. About letting her decide. She doesn't know what to expect on the streets. She's not on the local forum reading about all these deaths (two between Friday and today. Two in the same day when I was riding to work one day). I'm pretty sure, with the help of some friends, we can convince her to go the track route. It's just WAYYYYY safer. And if a wreck does happen, there's no chance of getting run over by a truck once she gets off.

What are you doing in October?

www.femmoto.com

I control ride for them.... it's the largest women's event in the country. Every manufacturer shows up to let us demo their rides.

Tell her she has to get some seat time on the track before she comes...
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