Ok, Here we go.

[ceo012384]

There is nothing wrong with takeoffs... I intend to run all my takeoffs on the street and/or sell them to street riders. Saves money and they always have tons of life left in the middle for street riding.

Originally Posted by jeeps84

to all the Noobs out there. Stay away from the take-offs that are very blue on the edges. Those tires are cooked.

Depends... over time the oils in the rubber work their way to the surface and leave a blue tinge... doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with the tire.

For example, if you do one trackday on a set of tires and then let them sit in your garage for a few months, they'll have that blue tinge on them... but they're perfectly fine.

[Gunther1000]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

There is nothing wrong with takeoffs... I intend to run all my takeoffs on the street and/or sell them to street riders. Saves money and they always have tons of life left in the middle for street riding.

Depends... over time the oils in the rubber work their way to the surface and leave a blue tinge... doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with the tire.

For example, if you do one trackday on a set of tires and then let them sit in your garage for a few months, they'll have that blue tinge on them... but they're perfectly fine.

You must have madd skilllz man! You ride Slicks in the freaking Rain! You da man!

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by Gunther1000

You must have madd skilllz man! You ride Slicks in the freaking Rain! You da man!

Takeoffs don't have to be slicks, buddy. In fact I will likely never run slicks because then you're not supersport legal. Just run DOT's which have a little tread in the center and slick edges.

You can easily ride supersoft DOT race tires in the rain unless you're riding like a retard.

[smileyman]

Well, hell, I had better qualify my statement about take offs so no one will misconstrue it or get bent outta shape. Anything black and round holding air can be used on the street. I was just referring to some guys who should have known better riding very aggressively on DOT take offs that were very used up and getting really poor traction. These guys were not noobs, were good riders, but should have either been using a sticky street tire or maybe even a new track day tire to get their literbikes hooked up. The take offs were way used up in terms of heat cycles and tread wear and did not perform up to the potential of my old worn out sport touring tires...OK back to the bitch slapping...

[jeeps84]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

Depends... over time the oils in the rubber work their way to the surface and leave a blue tinge... doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with the tire.

For example, if you do one trackday on a set of tires and then let them sit in your garage for a few months, they'll have that blue tinge on them... but they're perfectly fine.

Lil blue doesn't bother me. I'm talking about when the whole side is gummed and blue.

Originally Posted by smileyman

Well, hell, I had better qualify my statement about take offs so no one will misconstrue it or get bent outta shape. Anything black and round holding air can be used on the street. I was just referring to some guys who should have known better riding very aggressively on DOT take offs that were very used up and getting really poor traction. These guys were not noobs, were good riders, but should have either been using a sticky street tire or maybe even a new track day tire to get their literbikes hooked up. The take offs were way used up in terms of heat cycles and tread wear and did not perform up to the potential of my old worn out sport touring tires...OK back to the bitch slapping...

Much better wanning. Take-offs can be a god send for sum and the Apocalypse for those that don't know or understand how to read a used tire. Even if you understand, its still a gamble.