TSS RS500 2 Cylinder 2 Stroke

Rider · 10-20-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Yeah that might ruin me forever...Like a Jessica Alba/ Jessica Biel sandwich, how much can your brain stand?

Your talking my kind of sandwich....

Amber Lamps · 10-20-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider

Your talking my kind of sandwich....

I'll bring the "mayo"!

marko138 · 10-20-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider

Your talking my kind of sandwich....

I just had some soup.

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

I'll bring the "mayo"!

You sick bastard.

BobTheBiker · 10-20-2008, 01:24 PM

that looks pretty badass to me. I"ll take 5 of em!

smileyman · 10-20-2008, 01:40 PM

according to their specs that comes to 2.56 lbs per hp. Now I was just sitting here trying to come up with a poor boy option...I know a typical middle weight RR can be tuned into 118 hp and track prepped to 370 some odd pounds or 3.14 lbs per hp.

Someone help me find a way to get a cheapo used 600 down to 300 lbs...or cheap durable engine mods to get 145 hp in a 370 lbs chassis.

Of course there is no way to duplicate the light and responsive nature of a bike weighig just 286 lbs. Or the responsiveness of a tuned 500 cc 2 stroke so I am probably better off spending my time wanking to old Jessica Biel photos huh

Amber Lamps · 10-20-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

according to their specs that comes to 2.56 lbs per hp. Now I was just sitting here trying to come up with a poor boy option...I know a typical middle weight RR can be tuned into 118 hp and track prepped to 370 some odd pounds or 3.14 lbs per hp.

Someone help me find a way to get a cheapo used 600 down to 300 lbs...or cheap durable engine mods to get 145 hp in a 370 lbs chassis.

Of course there is no way to duplicate the light and responsive nature of a bike weighig just 286 lbs. Or the responsiveness of a tuned 500 cc 2 stroke so I am probably better off spending my time wanking to old Jessica Biel photos huh

Here comes the flames... um can't you get a GSXR1000 down to about 370 lbs? Hp is a no brainer and I get about 85 ft/lbs of torque from mine with a slip on and PCIII. Hey better yet,what about the 750? Seriously,once you remove all the "street gear",sub frame,etc wouldn't that meet your criteria? Hey,I used to ride a RZ350 back in the day and I understand what a 2-stroke can bring to the table but....for power band,reliability,tune-ability,etc don't 4-strokes beat them hands down?

smileyman · 10-20-2008, 02:08 PM

I had some seat time on a TZ 250 Tigger and I don't think I can make a 370 lb bike handle like a 286 or whatever bike does...90 lbs is an incredible difference in braking and turning. I think even the AMA superbikes weigh more than 370 lbs. And then their is the difference in engine/crankshaft mass...Just no way to replicate it on a budget.

On the other hand your right, 4 strokes are so much better with maintenance there isn't a comparison at all. They are pretty great.

So on an ulimited budget, sure we build a bare bones titanium framed GSXR1000 with ultra light forks and wheels. Everything lightened. Or we spend the same amount and buy this 500...

Amber Lamps · 10-20-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

I had some seat time on a TZ 250 Tigger and I don't think I can make a 370 lb bike handle like a 286 or whatever bike does...90 lbs is an incredible difference in braking and turning. I think even the AMA superbikes weigh more than 370 lbs. And then their is the difference in engine/crankshaft mass...Just no way to replicate it on a budget.

On the other hand your right, 4 strokes are so much better with maintenance there isn't a comparison at all. They are pretty great.

So on an ulimited budget, sure we build a bare bones titanium framed GSXR1000 with ultra light forks and wheels. Everything lightened. Or we spend the same amount and buy this 500...

Oh for sure! I don't think we can get a 600 down to 286 lbs but it would be fun to try!!! I know you are right,I was thinking in terms of power to weight. Corner speed is another story but again the new 800s are "too fast in the corners" according to Dorna.

I was thinking about your budget and what is somewhat possible.

Note: let's use carbon fiber for the frame on our imaginary GSXR!

besides I think Ti is too stiff...

10-20-2008, 01:40 PM	#5
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	according to their specs that comes to 2.56 lbs per hp. Now I was just sitting here trying to come up with a poor boy option...I know a typical middle weight RR can be tuned into 118 hp and track prepped to 370 some odd pounds or 3.14 lbs per hp. Someone help me find a way to get a cheapo used 600 down to 300 lbs...or cheap durable engine mods to get 145 hp in a 370 lbs chassis. Of course there is no way to duplicate the light and responsive nature of a bike weighig just 286 lbs. Or the responsiveness of a tuned 500 cc 2 stroke so I am probably better off spending my time wanking to old Jessica Biel photos huh __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

10-20-2008, 02:08 PM	#7
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	I had some seat time on a TZ 250 Tigger and I don't think I can make a 370 lb bike handle like a 286 or whatever bike does...90 lbs is an incredible difference in braking and turning. I think even the AMA superbikes weigh more than 370 lbs. And then their is the difference in engine/crankshaft mass...Just no way to replicate it on a budget. On the other hand your right, 4 strokes are so much better with maintenance there isn't a comparison at all. They are pretty great. So on an ulimited budget, sure we build a bare bones titanium framed GSXR1000 with ultra light forks and wheels. Everything lightened. Or we spend the same amount and buy this 500... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

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10-20-2008, 01:24 PM	#4
BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	that looks pretty badass to me. I"ll take 5 of em!