Buell question??

[Shift]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

It's hard to say but the old Lightning was butt fucking slow!!! Wow! It couldn't get out of it's own way.

Um. Are you sure your responsible enough for that liter? Because the old xb9 could still 0-60 in under 4 seconds. I hardly call that butt fucking slow.

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Originally Posted by Shift

Um. Are you sure your responsible enough for that liter? Because the old xb9 could still 0-60 in under 4 seconds. I hardly call that butt fucking slow.

How old are you? I'm talking the first generation Buells with the ooooolllldddd Harley motor. Like '95 or so. They handled well but whew between the shake,noise and sloooooowwwww revving motor,well it wasn't my cup of tea. Heck,I completely one with my '88 V-Max before I got rid of it. (Man,I miss that bike...)

Numbers from Motorcyclist mag on '97 M2/S3 I believe that was when they put in the "new" "better" Harley motor;
M2 Cyclone ('97) 69.6 @ 5500 71.7 @ 4250 12.25 @ 106.1
S3T Thunderbolt ('97) 76.9 @ 5750 72.8 @ 5000 12.45 @ 107.3

I don't have the specs for the S1...trust me,it was bad. Like 14 sec 1/4s or something...

Anyway,a used S1 would be an ok newbie bike imo.

[Shift]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

I don't have the specs for the S1...trust me,it was bad. Like 14 sec 1/4s or something...

You realize 14 seconds is about the time for a 99-04 Mustang GT? I still don't see how you can say that it cant even get out of it's own wayy but ok. Sure it's not modern sportbike fast but it's still movin fast enough to get urself in a world of pain in a hurry.

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by Shift

You realize 14 seconds is about the time for a 99-04 Mustang GT? I still don't see how you can say that it cant even get out of it's own wayy but ok. Sure it's not modern sportbike fast but it's still movin fast enough to get urself in a world of pain in a hurry.

Dude... a ninja 250 can do it in like 15 lol... 14 second quarter miles for a motorcycle is pitiful

[Shift]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

Dude... a ninja 250 can do it in like 15 lol... 14 second quarter miles for a motorcycle is pitiful

Your talking to the guy that has ridden a 125 cruiser, don't tell me what's slow.

A fucking 250 hauls ass compared to that some bitch.

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Originally Posted by ceo012384

Dude... a ninja 250 can do it in like 15 lol... 14 second quarter miles for a motorcycle is pitiful

Thanks,I was trying to find performance numbers on the 250 but no luck.

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Originally Posted by Shift

You realize 14 seconds is about the time for a 99-04 Mustang GT? I still don't see how you can say that it cant even get out of it's own wayy but ok. Sure it's not modern sportbike fast but it's still movin fast enough to get urself in a world of pain in a hurry.

Oh don't get me wrong! Any bike can bite you,I know that but if I'm not mistaken,an EX500 does a 1/4 in less than 14 secs...Yep.
Ninja 500R ('01) 50.2 @ 9250 30.9 @ 7750 12.81 @ 101.2

I wouldn't be surprised if a Ninja 250 can't make close to a 14sec 1/4!!!

My point is that it would make a decent 1st bike. That's all...

[marko138]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

How old are you? I'm talking the first generation Buells with the ooooolllldddd Harley motor. Like '95 or so. They handled well but whew between the shake,noise and sloooooowwwww revving motor,well it wasn't my cup of tea. Heck,I completely one with my '88 V-Max before I got rid of it. (Man,I miss that bike...)

Numbers from Motorcyclist mag on '97 M2/S3 I believe that was when they put in the "new" "better" Harley motor;
M2 Cyclone ('97) 69.6 @ 5500 71.7 @ 4250 12.25 @ 106.1
S3T Thunderbolt ('97) 76.9 @ 5750 72.8 @ 5000 12.45 @ 107.3

I don't have the specs for the S1...trust me,it was bad. Like 14 sec 1/4s or something...

Anyway,a used S1 would be an ok newbie bike imo.

I see your point...but I must call you out. The first gen Buell was built in 1983. I know...technicallities.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

What is the difference between a 600 and 1000 in HP and Torque. I always assumed it was significantly different. That's what I meant by not much difference between the two.

As far as standing up under braking, I have never experienced it. I regularly trail brake front and rear in corners without issue.

I know that much of the problem with the bike standing up under braking was due to the tires. The D208's that came on many of the first run bikes were awful at standing up mid corner.

Yeah, in the liquid cooled I4 world, 600 - 1000 is a big difference...

I had the standing up issue running Diablo's and Pilot Road 2's...

Originally Posted by Cutty72

I wheelied when I was 25

The 1125 is rock solid with the Corsa III's on it.
A touch twitchy when straight up with PP's on it.

I don't think it's a beginer bike, IMO.

The XB's, maybe if the rider had some prior experience with something. But I've never ridden one myself, so I can't tell ya.

I wheelied two days ago.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Yeah, in the liquid cooled I4 world, 600 - 1000 is a big difference...

I had the standing up issue running Diablo's and Pilot Road 2's...



I wheelied two days ago.

The standing up was much worse on 208's...I've read. Mine stands up with the DC III's...but it's not awful...but bad enough not to hit the brakes when leaned.