Harley pass at the Gap

ericr · 11-15-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

Why ALL riders should be required to take an MSF course. Might have used the FRONT brake had the rider known that 70% of the braking is in the front brake.

He just needed to learn bikes are supposed to lean in corners. If you watch it close he never was in danger of the bike not making the curve, he just didn't lean and then skidded straight off the side. What a dumbass -->

FT BSTRD · 11-15-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ericr

He just needed to learn bikes are supposed to lean in corners. If you watch it close he never was in danger of the bike not making the curve, he just didn't lean and then skidded straight off the side. What a dumbass -->

The problem was passing into a blind right hander at speed above the rider's comfort level. When he panicked, he locked the rear causing the bike to skid. He target fixated and rode it straight off the mountain.

Ducati Diva · 11-15-2008, 09:37 AM

Love the gap hate the chaos! It used to be a great place but it got way to crowded with to many people doing stupid shit. That's the great thing about being a local, we know roads that are just as fun that the tourist don't know about. Haven't been back to the gap in over a year and don't really miss it.

Sixxxxer · 11-15-2008, 10:57 AM

I love Ignorant People "There gonna beat our asses"...Why because you stopped to help??

Shut the fuck up

LeeNetworX · 11-16-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

I love Ignorant People "There gonna beat our asses"...Why because you stopped to help??

Shut the fuck up

Maybe he thought the group of idiot riders might assume they ran the guy off the road or something?

MikeSP1 · 11-16-2008, 11:12 AM

It's amazing how some people believe that cruisers are inherently safer than any other bike out there. I personally believe that it's a load of crap. I know because I have a cruiser and a sportbike. Cruisers really are more difficult to ride. They are capable of a prodigious amount of speed and inertia, and when the rider doesn't know the road or how to handle their particular machine, then things end up badly. I've had the front end of my VTX lift because I leaned in too hard and used the exhaust pipe as a fulcrum. I've felt both the front and rear tire skip and slide. But I've yet to truly push my RC to her limit yet, if I come in to a corner too hot for how much I'm leaned, I can just lean more, with the VTX, once you're on the peg, that's it.

marko138 · 11-17-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

Unfortunately, I believe we've all been there before. I believe this rider is either a perpetual cruiser from KS or FL who got in over his head in the mountains or is a newer rider. I don't know if he'd ever attended an MSF course or other rider training, but I think it would have made all the difference if he had or had remembered what he was taught.

Hopefully, he made it through with minor injuries and light damage. I have been down with minor injuries and light damage. Most have. For me, it was a learning experience. I spent weeks deconstructing what happened and what I needed to do to keep it from happening again. I think it made me a better rider and a better student of riding.

There is nothing like getting pitched on your ass to provide you with a healthy dose of respect for riding.

Exactly. You have to learn from your mistakes...provided you walk away from them.

was92v · 11-15-2008, 11:22 AM

I my experiance the best place to pass a car on that road is just before and in the middle of the corner....If you know what you are doing and checked for oncomming traffic at the right time. If you can't see around the turn, ie: through the trees up there, then don't do it. Large vehicles on the gap are best left for the short straight sections.
That guy just didn't know how to ride and dumbassed into the weeds and down the hill for no good reason. How do I know? Been there-Done that.
I have a picture of the "tree of Shame"(before it had a name) with one part hanging on it.. my front wheel, 16 years ago.

FT BSTRD · 11-15-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by was92v

How do I know? Been there-Done that.
I have a picture of the "tree of Shame"(before it had a name) with one part hanging on it.. my front wheel, 16 years ago.

March 6, 1992--The Tree of Shame is born.

marko138 · 11-15-2008, 02:06 PM

Love this guy: "Idiot...Fucking Idiot".

11-15-2008, 09:37 AM	#3
Ducati Diva just learning Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: western nc Moto: 1996 M900 Posts: 1,348	Love the gap hate the chaos! It used to be a great place but it got way to crowded with to many people doing stupid shit. That's the great thing about being a local, we know roads that are just as fun that the tourist don't know about. Haven't been back to the gap in over a year and don't really miss it. __________________ Todays mighty oak is just yesterdays nut who stood it's ground!

11-15-2008, 10:57 AM	#4
Sixxxxer Like Gixxxxer But Not Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dirty Jersey Moto: 2008 ZX6R Posts: 4,891	I love Ignorant People "There gonna beat our asses"...Why because you stopped to help?? Shut the fuck up __________________ [FRSH] Candy Plasma Blue

11-16-2008, 11:12 AM	#6
MikeSP1 Perpetual trouble Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at the base of the Alps Moto: VTX 1300C, RC51, CBR600RR, CBR929RR Posts: 715	It's amazing how some people believe that cruisers are inherently safer than any other bike out there. I personally believe that it's a load of crap. I know because I have a cruiser and a sportbike. Cruisers really are more difficult to ride. They are capable of a prodigious amount of speed and inertia, and when the rider doesn't know the road or how to handle their particular machine, then things end up badly. I've had the front end of my VTX lift because I leaned in too hard and used the exhaust pipe as a fulcrum. I've felt both the front and rear tire skip and slide. But I've yet to truly push my RC to her limit yet, if I come in to a corner too hot for how much I'm leaned, I can just lean more, with the VTX, once you're on the peg, that's it. __________________ "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO!"

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11-15-2008, 11:22 AM	#8
was92v Nowhere Man Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 558	I my experiance the best place to pass a car on that road is just before and in the middle of the corner....If you know what you are doing and checked for oncomming traffic at the right time. If you can't see around the turn, ie: through the trees up there, then don't do it. Large vehicles on the gap are best left for the short straight sections. That guy just didn't know how to ride and dumbassed into the weeds and down the hill for no good reason. How do I know? Been there-Done that. I have a picture of the "tree of Shame"(before it had a name) with one part hanging on it.. my front wheel, 16 years ago.