IIHS asks gov't to mandate ABS on motorcycles - Page 2

askmrjesus · 05-11-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

Now hold on a minute. I love the argument against ABS... why don't you want it?

Added cost, added weight, less rider directed control, one more thing to go wrong, and the fact that most people who do their own wrenching, will have a snow ball's chance in hell of properly bleeding an ABS system.

Other than that, I'm all for it...

JC

karl_1052 · 05-11-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Added cost, added weight, less rider directed control, one more thing to go wrong, and the fact that most people who do their own wrenching, will have a snow ball's chance in hell of properly bleeding an ABS system.

Other than that, I'm all for it...

JC

22lbs extra on the CBR600. One other thing I don't like is that with Honda they shove linked brakes down your throat with the ABS package.

Papa_Complex · 05-11-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052

22lbs extra on the CBR600. One other thing I don't like is that with Honda they shove linked brakes down your throat with the ABS package.

LBS is a real bitch to bleed, but I never had a complaint about the performance.

Avatard · 05-11-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052

22lbs extra on the CBR600. One other thing I don't like is that with Honda they shove linked brakes down your throat with the ABS package.

Again, I like being able to lock the rear sometimes. It's saved my ass more than once.

azoomm · 05-11-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052

22lbs extra on the CBR600. One other thing I don't like is that with Honda they shove linked brakes down your throat with the ABS package.

The entire package on the BMW is 5lbs - that includes quick shifter, raceABS and traction control.

Of course, I have no idea how fun it is to work on. Seeing as though it's a bmw... not easy.

Avatard · 05-10-2010, 06:25 PM

Um, I'm no Valentino Rossi, but I do remember quite vividly rather deftly avoiding a grass island in a Pathmark parking lot one dark night strictly because I was able to dab my rear brake, and lock my rear tire momentarily, and redirect my motorcycle around it.

I really don't care for anyone or anything modulating my brakes for me, thanks.

Smittie61984 · 05-10-2010, 06:47 PM

Do people have a skidding problem? I've locked the shit out of my brakes before and my locked rear brake didn't mean shit with it being 4ft above the ground as I headed straight for a deer.

Now despite I hate government regulations and wont' support many of them, with what I assume is the biggest selling style of bike (being a cruiser) not really capable of an endo, would ABS benefit those riders?

the chi · 05-10-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

That study wouldn't have found that the bikes that even come with antilock brakes are high end motorcycles that have a different type of owner. That OWNER is probably less likely to make an insurance claim, in general.

Thatss exactly what I was thinking. A CBR, GSXR, etc compared to a pricey GS or somesuch? What are the odds some old fart (not including Trip) is going to be doing some crazy shit on his bike like a newbie seeing how hard he can ride? Way different types of riders (typically).

Trip · 05-10-2010, 09:05 PM

I don't have an issue with ABS. Doesn't really bother me.

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Originally Posted by The Chi

Thatss exactly what I was thinking. A CBR, GSXR, etc compared to a pricey GS or somesuch? What are the odds some old fart (not including Trip) is going to be doing some crazy shit on his bike like a newbie seeing how hard he can ride? Way different types of riders (typically).

yeah, people freak out when i manhandle the GS because of the money that is involved.

Papa_Complex · 05-10-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Do people have a skidding problem? I've locked the shit out of my brakes before and my locked rear brake didn't mean shit with it being 4ft above the ground as I headed straight for a deer.

Now despite I hate government regulations and wont' support many of them, with what I assume is the biggest selling style of bike (being a cruiser) not really capable of an endo, would ABS benefit those riders?

I've seen a lot of people lock it up and ride straight off the road in a corner, which I doubt ABS would help one little bit.

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Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Um, I'm no Valentino Rossi, but I do remember quite vividly rather deftly avoiding a grass island in a Pathmark parking lot one dark night strictly because I was able to dab my rear brake, and lock my rear tire momentarily, and redirect my motorcycle around it. I really don't care for anyone or anything modulating my brakes for me, thanks. __________________ Insert free thought here.

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Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	Do people have a skidding problem? I've locked the shit out of my brakes before and my locked rear brake didn't mean shit with it being 4ft above the ground as I headed straight for a deer. Now despite I hate government regulations and wont' support many of them, with what I assume is the biggest selling style of bike (being a cruiser) not really capable of an endo, would ABS benefit those riders? __________________ lifts - R.I.P.