Queue the anti-gun nuts...

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

Glocks don't have an external safety to put "on". That is also one of many good reasons why you don't screw around with it while it is in your pocket either.

I've never fired a Glock, but my understanding is that the safety is integrated into the trigger mechanism. Is that correct?

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I've never fired a Glock, but my understanding is that the safety is integrated into the trigger mechanism. Is that correct?

Yes

I like glocks and have had several, I carry a 1911

Not really sure where KS is going w his post, but generally when ' carrying' you carry everywhere where legal, restaurants malls, wherever your travels take you.

Crime doesn't stop at the doors of ' family' restaurants

[KSGregman]

Originally Posted by RACER X

Crime doesn't stop at the doors of ' family' restaurants

The ONLY person who brought violence and crime into that restaraunt was HIM.

But it's cool....can't have his "right" to be part of a well regulated militia infringed upon.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I've never fired a Glock, but my understanding is that the safety is integrated into the trigger mechanism. Is that correct?

YES. My buddy has a personal Glock 19 and a work issued Glock 17. Both have trigger safetys. So this retard had his finger on the trigger with enough foce to depress the safety, and then something happened from there.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

Why would someone carry a weapon with a round in the chamber? I hope he gets charged with discharging the round and they take his permit away

Do you carry? I'm guessing not. I don't think I know anyone who carries that doesn't have a round chambered.

[Porkchop]

He must have had a really badly designed holster. My Fobus lever holster has absolutely 0 access to the trigger on both sides. He had to be fucking around, or be packing like Plaxico.

[fujimoh]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

Do you carry? I'm guessing not. I don't think I know anyone who carries that doesn't have a round chambered.

Yes, I have a permit and I carry concealed. I carry a revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber, because I don't want an accidental discharge.

[wildchild]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

Yes, I have a permit and I carry concealed. I carry a revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber, because I don't want an accidental discharge.

little bit different there. the revolver if double action can be carried unchambered. when you pull the trigger it goes bang as the cylinder then rotates to a live round.

with a semi auto, if you don't have a round chambered you would have to rack the slide in order to use the gun. if you had time, you would still need the forsight to do that.
I don't know anyone who carries an auto unchambered. if it's a 1911 they have the safety engaged if it's a glock style or springfield, well they have internal safetys. it would be hard to get a gun to go off like that without messing with it. back strap, trigger and other safetys make it very difficult to fire unless you're holding it and pulling the trigger.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by wildchild

little bit different there. the revolver if double action can be carried unchambered. when you pull the trigger it goes bang as the cylinder then rotates to a live round.

with a semi auto, if you don't have a round chambered you would have to rack the slide in order to use the gun. if you had time, you would still need the forsight to do that.
I don't know anyone who carries an auto unchambered. if it's a 1911 they have the safety engaged if it's a glock style or springfield, well they have internal safetys. it would be hard to get a gun to go off like that without messing with it. back strap, trigger and other safetys make it very difficult to fire unless you're holding it and pulling the trigger.

This...

You wouldn't have an accidental discharge unless something strikes the round. In the closed cylinder of a revolver that could only be the hammer and in order for that to happen the hammer would have to be cocked back thus advancing the cylinder to a live round so I really dont see what good having an empty chamber under the hammer is, just means one less shot...

An unchambered pistol is about as useless as tits on a Boar hog, unless you just need a club... IMO

[Corey]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

Yes, I have a permit and I carry concealed. I carry a revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber, because I don't want an accidental discharge.

On a revolver, that empty cylinder puts you at a disadvantage. You put yourself at a disadvantage both in terms of how many rounds are available and how many steps you then have to take to get your gun into a ready to fire situation. An accidental discharge on a revolver is difficult to do. The double action pull is somewhere around 11 pounds. Unless you're carrying it in a shit holster or no holster at all, it would be monumentally difficult to get the gun to discharge without you having a finger on the trigger.

I'm not knocking pocket carry, but if this idiot did indeed have the gun in his pocket and it discharged, it sounds like he was fucking with it, or it wasn't in a holster and something in his pocket snagged the trigger. He's a fucking dolt. Even in a pocket, your gun should be holstered, if for no other reason than to protect the trigger.