Cool video explaining the cross plain crankshaft in the new R1.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Dave

Also, with all the big bang talk going on i suppose its worth mentioning that kawi is leaning towards a return to even firing orders testing their zx-rr with a ''screamer'' engine sacrificing some tractability for all out power could be advantage with the 800cc restriction

HP and torque has never been a problem for Kawi, it's being able to use it.

[No Worries]

Originally Posted by DLIT

That's what I'm saying.

Because of this major redesign, I'd be a lot more skeptical to by the intro year's model. I wonder how much of a difference it makes though. I wonder who's gonna give us the first review. There goes Yamaha, breaking the barriers again.

Buick had an odd-fire V6 in 1975.

Originally Posted by DLIT

Supposedly there has always been an issue with the R1's midrange. Maybe it'll be a noticeable difference.

The early R1's, with the long-stroke engine, had no problem with low and mid-range torque. Not until the Gixxer 1000 came out in 2001 did anyone beat it. Even in 2002, it beat the Honda, Kawi, and Suzuki liter bikes up to 5K, where the GSXR1000 surged ahead. I would buy a 1998 R1 (if I could find one in good condition) and mod the suspension and handlebar, before I'd buy a new R1. Plus, the 98 looks way nicer.

[DLIT]

Originally Posted by No Worries

Buick had an odd-fire V6 in 1975.



The early R1's, with the long-stroke engine, had no problem with low and mid-range torque. Not until the Gixxer 1000 came out in 2001 did anyone beat it. Even in 2002, it beat the Honda, Kawi, and Suzuki liter bikes up to 5K, where the GSXR1000 surged ahead. I would buy a 1998 R1 (if I could find one in good condition) and mod the suspension and handlebar, before I'd buy a new R1. Plus, the 98 looks way nicer.

If money wasn't an option, you'd still buy the '98? You're fucking crazy.

[Dave]

a better explanation is that the big bang motor pairs firing pulses so the rear tire gets a teeny tiny break while a standard screamer hammers it constantly.

[DLIT]

Originally Posted by Dave

a better explanation is that the big bang motor pairs firing pulses so the rear tire gets a teeny tiny break while a standard screamer hammers it constantly.

I wonder why Yamaha didn't put that in their release then? "Basically, it gives the rear tire a teeny, tiny break."

[Dave]

Originally Posted by DLIT

I wonder why Yamaha didn't put that in their release then? "Basically, it gives the rear tire a teeny, tiny break."

they also could have said "hey its half a v8 now!"

point is, a tire can only give 100% of traction at a time. be it in accel, side, or braking. a reduction in the affect of acceleration on traction would make for a slight advantage and explaining it like that would be admiting its not gonna do much for us everyday joes except cut some potential top end kinda smart move on their part saying it like this.

im rather curious how they got past the requirement for heavy balancing inherent in the crossplane design and also if it will rev at a similar speed to its screamer rivals